Drunken Monkey Posted September 22, 2004 Posted September 22, 2004 ......and er.... wing chun has a way of turning everything into wing chun..... anyway. complete beginner. go for it. just don't have any big ideas about what you're gonna learn/do and just go and see what they have to offer. in any case, if you don't like it you can always leave. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
47MartialMan Posted September 22, 2004 Posted September 22, 2004 ......and er.... wing chun has a way of turning everything into wing chun..... anyway. complete beginner. go for it. just don't have any big ideas about what you're gonna learn/do and just go and see what they have to offer. in any case, if you don't like it you can always leave. Hmmn, how true of all of this post
Matousek Posted September 23, 2004 Author Posted September 23, 2004 Aha! The simple yet appropriate answer! "Knowledge is Power!"~Matousek~Martial Arts
battousai16 Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 ......and er.... wing chun has a way of turning everything into wing chun..... yeah, i've noticed that myself. so have my HRD instructors... and they're not exactly thrilled, though it hasn't created a large problem yet. mostly just "wedging" in sparring a lot. and my elbows are in with my vertical punches... we'll see how it goes. "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Drunken Monkey Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 .....which is why i say learn it first or learn it last..... i guess it's down to wing chun being about how to apply the principles as opposed to doing moves. granted there are sets of movements/techniques but they aren't used as they are learnt. i really don't know what i can say to help you 'separate' wing chun from your HRD. my sifu was always worried that the other things i learnt would corrupt my wing chun. instead it has always been the other instructors who get annoyed with wing chun.... isn't it amazing how the totally unnatural elbows-in position is so easily absorbed by our bodies as being a natural and instinctive reactive position and once absorbed, how hard it is to shake off....(?) post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
battousai16 Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 i gotta' agree with you whole heartedly, now that my elbows are in with my punches (finally), they're in with everything i do. i find it kind of ammusing, and i'm a bit more satisfied with my taining that way. i don't feel the need to seperate HRD and WC. if one makes the other a bit better that way, so be it. "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Drunken Monkey Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 ....well, if it's 'interfering' then that isn't a good thing, especialy if you are still 'learning'. i know that it's always hampered my learning of other things. at uni, there was a tkd class. i couldn't ever really get into it. good work-out, but not for me. i couldn't get over the fact that it kinda overcomplicated things (when they talked of fighting and self defence) and as most of you know, my 'kick-boxing' doesn't resemble kick-boxing of any sort...... but then again having a base in wing chun has helped me to 'see' things more clearly in other things. i mean, it cetainly helped me to see into five animals more clearly. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
battousai16 Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 well, see, and that's the thing, is that the few things i've learned in WC have already opened all sorts of doors in HRD, which has just made it all the more effective, really. the thing about HRD is it's a "tradtional"...mma. there's enough to it that there really isn't much for WC to "butcher", and although there are obvious differences now, they've so far only improved HRD rather than helped it... but my instructor still talks about "impurities" every so often... "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Drunken Monkey Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 "impurities" hehe, i would say the impurities are in HRD..... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
battousai16 Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 oh, goes without saying... i just wouldn't DARE say it to my instructor... though, in its defense, it really is a great and complete system. i'm sure they even teach tank operation at later levels and that is from the perspective of a student, so... yeah. maybe i just haven't "seen the light"... i think most of the impurities are in the attitudes of most of the practitioners... MHO. it dosen't leave room to grow. "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
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