Gilbert Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 ok....look....in aikido. we stop the violence. end the battle quickly...and safely. unless your in a life and death situation. Then you break something if it was necessary.anyway, i love aikido because it is a gentle art. let me put it this way. if a boxer, karateka, or a taekwondo person is facing an aikido martial artist. the boxer or whatever in his mind he is thinking(im going to hit him, im gonna bruise him up)in other words he is thinking and has on his mind....fighting. an aikido person is gonna stop it and put him down with his energy. we have a certain distance...an aikido person would wait...what is a jab or a kick or a grab when he cant reach you..even if he dancing like a idiot or jumping around. he wont do nothing if he cant reach you. he is gonna come in and hurt you..thats when you move in and stop the dancing, the weaving,and whatever the guy was doing. but the aikido person stood in his distance. then moved in. now if the aikido person moves in...and strikes too...then both of them are now using force and the strongest force is gonna win..like O'sensei said. now we do strike and kick...but, if your the smarter person you stop the violence.thats why it is called the art of peace. thats how O'sensei intended it. no one couldve touch that man or hurt him. he knew how to control balance using ki. please ask question on Aikido......feel more than free. Even the most powerful human being has a limited sphere of strength. Draw him outside of that sphere and into your own, and his strength will dissipate.
47MartialMan Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 Yes I agree on one point. The mind should not get too angry to the point it "clouds" responses.
JLee Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 ive always wondered if a aikido/grappling fighter could block or counter the boxers jab. the jab is a very fast move, how do yall counter it?
47MartialMan Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 Heh heh, you made the point of a story against a Aikidio instructor, a fake jab followed by another. Hmmn......I gues it depends of the level.
Shorin Ryuu Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 let me put it this way. if a boxer, karateka, or a taekwondo person is facing an aikido martial artist. the boxer or whatever in his mind he is thinking(im going to hit him, im gonna bruise him up)in other words he is thinking and has on his mind....fighting. an aikido person is gonna stop it and put him down with his energy. we have a certain distance...an aikido person would wait...what is a jab or a kick or a grab when he cant reach you..even if he dancing like a idiot or jumping around. he wont do nothing if he cant reach you. I applaud your enthusiasm for aikido, but... I think you do not understand the similarities between aikido and many other arts. You also assume that any one who does karate (or tae kwon do or boxing) is merely someone who trains for the ring rather than real life. If you honestly believe that aikido is the only art that attempts to control energy in a confrontation, control distance, move in to contact the opponent, and resolve situations peacefully, then I suggest you spend some more time browsing this board. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
Gilbert Posted September 20, 2004 Author Posted September 20, 2004 alright shorin ryu....i do understand what your saying. but the reason i put all this is because " i have browsed the board". and all i see...is this....(that this art is weak and that that art is no good or that this is this. im just trying to prove the point in aikido as well as you are proving right now as you replied to me about other arts. now about the boxers jab...look it is easy to criticize that aikido cant defense against a jab. but when you are in a fight.. you find how easy it is to apply the technique against a jab. ofcourse we wait. he cant reach you if you keep your distance and move in at the right moment. always stay focus in a fight and the technique will be there with out a doubt.....learn all the techniques but have no technique. its easy to right down in directions here how to fight.. but when your in the real fight i guarantee you will get lost and get hit.. thats why you should stay focus and dont have yourself a plan before a fight..just do what you have to do. and the technique will reflex itself. Even the most powerful human being has a limited sphere of strength. Draw him outside of that sphere and into your own, and his strength will dissipate.
White Warlock Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 alright shorin ryu....i do understand what your saying. but the reason i put all this is because " i have browsed the board". and all i see...is this....(that this art is weak and that that art is no good or that this is this. im just trying to prove the point in aikido as well as you are proving right now as you replied to me about other arts. Hmm... did you read my posts on aikido? They have been far from such a stance. Anyway, the more i read your posts about aikido, the more i'm inclined to believe you are studying aikijutsu, and not aikido... or at least a far removed interpretation of aikido. Please don't take this as invasive or disrespectful, as i'm somewhat interested in the origins of the style you are studying. The general belief in aikido is that there are different interpretations of aikido but there are never rifts in belief, such as one would encounter in other systems. Therefore, all interpretations of aikido are acceptable. Added note: hybrids are not 'interpretations,' they are mixes. I.e., a system incorporating Pan Nam wing chun styles with aikido... would be a hybrid system, while an aikidoist presenting instruction and focus of aikido in different fashion, or with differing emphasis... is an interpretation. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
Gilbert Posted September 20, 2004 Author Posted September 20, 2004 its no aikijutsu..... its aikido.....but im making views that others dont see.... Even the most powerful human being has a limited sphere of strength. Draw him outside of that sphere and into your own, and his strength will dissipate.
47MartialMan Posted September 21, 2004 Posted September 21, 2004 Yes WW, I see what you mean by interpretations
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