Gilbert Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Boxing is a very good sport and self defense. it helps to bob and weive and do very good slips and ducks. against puches and kicks. one may be asking what "kicks"! yes thats right. we are kind of dirty as well. we can foot stomp...and also hit the knees with our hands and following up to the body and head..our training is very good. 5 days a week....never resting....10 seconds of water breaks...and after one is warn out of the training then we spar...this gives us alot of potential and stamina..and can fight without getting winded easily..we become very lively. dont take a boxer as if he cant defend himself with a kick cause your dead wrong. unless the person...a boxer...doesnt know how to fight boxing style... Even the most powerful human being has a limited sphere of strength. Draw him outside of that sphere and into your own, and his strength will dissipate.
SevenStar Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=14614
Bad_Vibes Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 it helps to bob and weive and do very good slips and ducks. against puches and kicks. Bobbing may be a great tactic is straight boxing, but against a Thai boxer who likes to use his knees a lot, it's probably not such a great idea. Slips could be an issue also since your aloud to grab your oponent in thai boxing. So that punch you just slipped can then be used to grab the back of your neck for a little more control. Of course Muhamid Ali did that in boxing anyway and always seemed to get away with it. I watched the fight between him and Forman the other night again, and it's funny how Forman held his gloves up a lot like Muay Thai fighters do and Ali used a lot of illegal tactics that would be legal in a Muay Thai fight and got away with it. But I can tell you from past experience, when I tried to use my straight punches I practiced over and over again from TKD many years ago against a "decent" boxer that was working with me and some guys from my army unit, he tore me apart with hooks. I couldn't even see them coming. Those succers went right around my hands and rung my bell. I knew that if I ever got back into MA it would have to be boxing or Muay Thai. It's only taken about 8 years to get back
White Warlock Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 Bobbing may be a great tactic is straight boxing, but against a Thai boxer who likes to use his knees a lot, it's probably not such a great idea. Bobbing is no better or worse against a Thai boxer than it would be against a Western boxer. Sorry to say what i've said countless times, but the title of 'bobbing,' given to the actions taught in boxing, doesn't mean someone just bounces their head up and down. There's a system to it, and boxers must contend with uppercuts, hooks, and rounders. Bobbing is not a single, solitary action... it's a specific action that is 'combined' with all the other defensive/offensive actions of a boxer. Basically, a knee moves no faster than an uppercut, and both travel the same path to reach the intended target. Grabbing an action and saying, "do this and you'll get hurt" when doing that would be the wrong action to have committed to, is essentially saying, "if you don't know what you're doing, i'll hurt you." "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
SevenStar Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 exactly what ww said. In addition, knees shouldn't be much of a factor anyway. A proper bob should be just barely below the punch - it should almost graze your head. If you are low enough for him to easily knee you, you are doing it wrong.
SevenStar Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 what were you saying "Oh no...." about?
47MartialMan Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 I hope this don't turn into a "This vs That"
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