Ronnryu Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Does anyone know this kata if so do you know where I cna get a video of it . I know a kata called tsuriken haku no sai but from what I understand they are 2 different kata? also if you know of a mpeg with it on it please let me know so I can jsut view it? Thanks in advance Ron DavisSandan (Motobu ha Shito ryu)
harleyt26 Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Hi Ron, Tsuken shita haku no sai and Chiken shita haku no sai are the same kata it depends where on Okinawa you are from which name you call it.My style of Ryu Kyu Kobudo,Tesshinkan call it Chiken shita haku no sai.We have an eku kata called Tsuken suna kake no eku,it helps to lessen confusion by calling the sai kata Chiken.My instructors do not permitt video taping of our forms,it has caused problems with people missrepresenting our organization without proper correction.The kata is available on video through the Okinawa Rengokai on the world championship videos. I also have trained many years in Motobu ha shito ryu,maybe we can get together someday to compare kata. migi kamae,migi bo kihon ichi
Ronnryu Posted September 16, 2004 Author Posted September 16, 2004 Thanks for your reply. I try to get to florida in july where abouts is summerfield located. Who did you study Motobu ha shito ryu from I use to be in the same orginazation as Shihan Kelly and still keep intouch wht him. Personlally I am seeking the more traditional okinawan style of kata. including the weapons . Unfourtantly My sensei does not know this kata , and I want to learn a few more sai kata. I have tried to contackt a ryukyu kempo/kobudo school not to far from me but they wont return my email or calls. I would also love to learn a eku kata. the current kobudo kat that I know right now is. tenryu no kun tokamine no kun shushi no kun ryu be no kun sakagawa no kun sunakake no kun tsuraken haku no sai chantan yara no sai hama higa no sai jushi no tonfa hama higa no tonfa kokuba no tonfa hama higa no kama taria no nunchaku sho Ron DavisSandan (Motobu ha Shito ryu)
harleyt26 Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 I do not know Shihan Kelly myself but I am familiar with his good reputation.Unfortunately I was not fortunate enough to find myself in a Motobu ha Shito Ryu dojo with the authentic background and experience that Mr. Kelly has.I do not want to sling mud or reopen old wounds so to speak so I will just say I trained in Motobu ha Shito Ryu in the central Fl. area.The kobudo kata you listed for the most part are from Kunibas sylibus,I also did most of these (with a few exceptions) when I was training in Shito Ryu.I now train in Okinawan karate and kobudo,it was the best thing to ever happen to my training,I train in fewer kata but the ones I do I know to an extent and depth I never knew in Shito Ryu.Chiken shita haku no sai is the first sai kata in our sylibus then Chatan Yara no sai then Hama Higa no sai then Tawada no sai.I go to Atlanta now and then to train with Sensei Dan Smith in Shorin Ryu maybe we can arrange a stop off. Keep in touch. Tom Hodges migi kamae,migi bo kihon ichi
Ronnryu Posted September 16, 2004 Author Posted September 16, 2004 Cool I have a class in Griffin ga which is a little south of atlanta . I am familaer With Mr. Smith I believe he help arrange the Rengokai when it was in atlanta. I enjoyed that event very much and hope it will come back to atlant in the future. Please let me know when you are in atlanta maybe I cna make it up that way to work out with yall. Ron DavisSandan (Motobu ha Shito ryu)
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