chris3 Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 how would you corectly form the blood choke? what i have read about it, seems like a good defense to end fights quickly if you can do it fast enough, but how would you do this correctly? have any links you can share? Thanks a lot! Chris i have a kabar knife...black metal, brown handle, and a nice silver shine for the slice!
CloudDragon Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 Never heard it by that name, can you describe it? A Black Belt is just a white belt that don't know when to quit!
delta1 Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 how would you corectly form the blood choke? You mean strangulation? To choke is to cut off air, not blood. Any 'choke hold' that cuts off the carotid arteries will shut off the major blood supply to the brain (there is actually a third artery to the brain, but it is insufficient to maintain consciousness or prevent brain dammage if the carotids are compromised). But shuting of the carotid arteries for even a brief time is very dangerouse. It can send the wrong signals internally and shut down breathing. Be very careful with your 'chokes'- they are nothing to take lightly. I'd always have a knowlegable observer whenever practicing chokes. I'm not a grappler, but I used to train ambulance crews and have field experience with this. It is so easy to kill someone like this that checking the carotid pulse incorrectly can do it. Freedom isn't free!
47MartialMan Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 how would you corectly form the blood choke? You mean strangulation? To choke is to cut off air, not blood. Any 'choke hold' that cuts off the carotid arteries will shut off the major blood supply to the brain (there is actually a third artery to the brain, but it is insufficient to maintain consciousness or prevent brain dammage if the carotids are compromised). But shuting of the carotid arteries for even a brief time is very dangerouse. It can send the wrong signals internally and shut down breathing. Be very careful with your 'chokes'- they are nothing to take lightly. I'd always have a knowlegable observer whenever practicing chokes. I'm not a grappler, but I used to train ambulance crews and have field experience with this. It is so easy to kill someone like this that checking the carotid pulse incorrectly can do it. Agreed....
Rich67 Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 The "blood choke", or more aptly called the carotid restraint hold, or rear naked choke, is a dangerous move if done improperly, and if you are not trained in the proper application/recovery for your victim. Basically, if you are asking how it is applied, there are several schools of thought. The way I apply it is: 1) Approach subject from rear while subject is kneeling. 2) Place left arm around his neck, making sure your bicep and forearm are the main contact points on his neck (meaning these two points are what place pressure on the sides of his neck, where the carotids run). 3) Place the left hand on your right shoulder. 4) Bring your right arm behind his back and either brace his head with your right hand (on the back of the head) or grab your left shoulder with the right hand. 5) Apply the choke by squeezing your left arm and pushing forward with right hand ( or just by pulling your arms together if you are holding the other shoulder). Also push your head into the opponents head to offer protection for your face. Absolutely DO NOT practice this for kicks with your pals on a Friday night. It should only be preformed in a dojo or with someone who knows what it can do. If applied incorrectly, you can cause serious damage to the person's neck, trachea (windpipe), and at worst, kill or cause brain damage. Essentially, once the flow of blood is interrupted to the brain, the person passes out. Unconsciousness can occur in as little as 5 seconds once it is applied and supply is cut off. Then, if you don't know CPR or other first aid, you will have a hard time if this guy you choked out starts convulsing or doesn't regain consciousness. Please, just learn this from someone who knows what they're doing. Also, if you want to train to use it, do so in a class/dojo environment. Then ony use it in the street when it's a matter of life and death. Not in a schoolyard fight. Mixed Martial Artist
47MartialMan Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 Yes, agreed. I saw a couple of kids do this some time ago. They were playing "wrestling". One started to choke the other. Fortunately, I got there in time to "break" it up. Certain media and peers can cause a lot of problems and misconceptions. People need to be "educated". Both os these kids, I had mention are now my students. Both are ready to graduate. One is joining the Air Force. Imagine if i wasn't around, then one of them would no longer be either.
WolverineGuy Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 A blood choke is ANY choke that cuts the blood off to the brain. Doesn't have to be the rear naked. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
47MartialMan Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 A blood choke is ANY choke that cuts the blood off to the brain. Doesn't have to be the rear naked. Your a "new daddy"?
WolverineGuy Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 LOL Doesn't feel so new anymore, but yes, I'm a new daddy! Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
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