what martial arts uses the knife?

[chris3]

ok, i have this big kabar knife and i want to take some different classes besides tae-kwon-doe! I stoped at a purple belt, and my instructor sold her store over to another martial arts man who is a real jerk. So of course i couldnt take him anymore and i stopped going there. I was wondering if there is any martial arts classes that use the knife?! I know blue belt and brown belt you use a weapon, you pick one, but are there special classes? And if so, what belt do you have to be, and what age!? I know for ju-ditso, you have to be like 18 or older or a black belt older then 16! My teacher said that I could do it as long as i had my black belt, but she sold the store and left! ugh but are there any other martial art skils that deal with the knife? using and protecting it? I want to know so i can defend my self on the streets, because i got cough in trouble with 2 of my friends with about 8 black guys, and they beat the uhh huh out of my friend jay, and they could of had a knife! so help me out please!

 

Thanks a lot<

 

chris

[OceanDragon]

Hapkido uses a knife, but that's only if you confiscate if from your attacker. (I don't know if that's what you mean.) It doesn't put a real emphasis on it though, and you're supposed to only make minor cuts to discourage your attack from fighting. But if you're looking for something that you could use in the street as something more effective than empty-hand techniques, I'd just go the extra step and get a gun license, which will be much better in real life.

 

But if you just want to learn the art of using a knife, I can't help you.

[chris3]

yeah ok, i am only 14, and a purple belt so i am starting back up to becaome a black belt. I just want to learn how to disable a knife from my opponent, fast and easy, and also learn how to use it like how to make different strikes, different holds of the knife in my hand, you know, like how to use a knife in a fight. Just incase there was a knife laying around, and my opponent grabed it, i oculd take it from him, or me, grabing it first! thanks a lot!

[Little Dragon]

wait whut MA u take? usually around BB,you learn how to disarm people with guns or knives...but i dun think they teach u how to take it-then stab/shoot them with it...

[delta1]

Fillipino Martial Arts and American Kenpo.

 

FMA's start you with sticks, which represent edged weapons. As you advance, they translate the stick moves to empty hands.

 

American Kenpo starts you with empty hands, then as you advance the same techniques are translated to knife.

 

Which is best? I'm partial to Kenpo for it's effectivness, but the FMA's are one of the most fun to learn, and are very effective in their own right. If you have either in your area, try them out and see if you like it.

 

But you aren't going to learn eithre fast enough to use it in the real world with your narrow back-side on the line. And, if you go into any decent class and tell them you want to use it on someone, they'll show you the door. Also, going at a bunch of street toughs with a knife is asking to get it used on you. Even if you win, you're going to jail with all their friends. Sometimes, you just have to take your lumps and move on.

[JerryLove]

The first and most obvious knife art-group would be the Silats.

 

Right behind them are the stick-and-knife arts of the FMS (Kali, Arnis, Escrima)... Systema has some decent knife work as well.

 

I've not seen any others personally that I liked.

 

And I disagree with dekta1 in terms of learning to use a knife. While fighting against a knife is quite difficult, fighting with one can be taught *very* quickly (hours)

[Beiner]

Shaolin wushu will teach you how to use the knife. Amongst other weapons.

[JerryLove]

With all due respect: I've interacted with people who have trained Chinese Knife work with the Chinese millitary. According to him, the millitairy won't attack the groin in a knife-fight because it's "impolite".

 

This alone sums up my opinion of Wushu knife-work untill and unles someone shows me something different.

[delta1]

And I disagree with dekta1 in terms of learning to use a knife. While fighting against a knife is quite difficult, fighting with one can be taught *very* quickly (hours)

 

Disagreement noted- and you are correct! I'm thinking here in terms of carrying one for self defense, and possibly having to use it against an experienced knife fighter. Also, lessons cheaply learned and skills easily attained are not generally appreciated. To actually use a knife in combat is a lot different than going through the motions in training. When faced with having to seriousely injure or kill someone, and worse when it's kill or get killed, a lot of very upseting things start to happen both physiologically and psychologically. And the effective use of that knife in combat requires a lot of high stress, scenario based training. Heck, just selecting a knife style that suits your fighting style, that feels natural to you, and a grip that works with any style grip, and that won't slip from a sweaty or bloody hand- that alone takes a lot of experience. Then, there's the carry. Anyone carrying any weapon for self defense would be well advised to spend many hours perfecting thei carry position and deployment under all possible conditions. Won't do you any good if you fumble the draw, or if you don't know how to protect your deployment under a sudden, seriouse engagement.

 

So, yes, you can very quickly train someone to use a knife. But, to carry and use one effectively requires considerably more training. Further more, after reading some of your other posts on this topic, I'd be really surprised if you don't take this aproach to your own knife training. I'm guessing you are thinking here of specifically learning the moves and concepts in a fight, while I'm thinking of a much broader training venue. Correct? Or off in the Ozone again?

[JerryLove]

Generally correct. I am speaking of someone who has already gotten the correct mindset/aggression and wants to know how to manipulate a blade (in his own hand)... you are also right in your inference that the skills will likely go away if not actively "remembered".