47MartialMan Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Its all good...... BTW, I am interested on how WC got to Brazil.....
wing chun kuen man Posted September 18, 2004 Posted September 18, 2004 47MM, Well, I think you have by now most of the relevant info on how Wing Chun came to Brazil, however this is an alternative take on "Modern" Brazilian Wing Chun Kuen . Apparently the Gracies brought WC to Brazil, where they added grappling to its techniques and then they passed it to Master Orlando Cani, who is a Yoga master, here in Rio, by the way. Now in his academy master Cani added yoga relaxation techniques to the WC. As a result the Wing Chun practitioners here in Rio are relaxed kind of dudes . Oh I forgot, they also do the lambada, because , well we are talking about Brazilian Wing Chun, aren´t we? This Brazilian Wing Chun is taught everywhere. It is a very efficient system where you can become a grand master in 1.5 years, but of course if you really put a great effort into it, you can become one in about 10 to 13 months, it is all about how hard one trains. Because of its inherent bjj influence its ground grappling is very effective the only catch is that to get the practitioners to perform, you need to have lambada music playing in the background - it is rather like traditional MT boutes in Thailand, where the fighters dance to live background music. Of course the music played during the WC classes is not live because well WC is not a traditional MA, it is very modern, hence our music comes out of cd players. Unfortunately this is not always practical in street situations. However, on the positive side it does create a rapport amongst the fighters and this sometimes results in them forgetting their bouts and just dancing the lambada. Many specialists believe that the Brazilian branch of Wing Chun will in the future make a great contribution to world peace. Now about the important stand up applications of Brazilian Wing Chun Kuen. Well, as many of the experts in the forum know, there is actually no application. It is all based on theory and concepts. As a result of this advanced and secret approach to combat, the sparring sessions go as follows: one sparring partner will tell the other what he will do to the him in theory, and the other responds by saying how he would counterattack, in theory of course and this goes on back and forth. The winner is declared when one of the combatants is lost for words, and/or cries to the instructor. Also, because of this peculiar type of sparring sometimes accidents do happen and bouts have to be stopped when an exponent´s feelings are hurt and this pain can be very and I mean VERY deep indeed. These are the famous INTERNALS of Brazilian Wing Chun Kuen. When the bout or sparring match is over the instructor will most of the time declare the winner immediately, the exceptions are of course when he is in his deep yoga meditation - Master Orlando Cani´s yoga is dangerously, everpresent in this lineage of Wing Chun. Anyway, in such cases he will be woken by one of the disciples gently tickeling his central line and if this does not work the disciple will just raise the volume of the background lambada music. When there are no partners available the master always recommends the students to train with the wooden dummy. As those familiar with Wing Chun will know, the Wooden Dummy is an invaluable training tool. So it is very common to walk into the Kwoon (training hall) and find Brazilian Wing Chun Kuen (BWCK)practioner in the corner telling the dummy all the things that he will be doing to it, if it attacks him, however it is not uncommon to see a practitioner reciting romantic poetry to the dummy as well. As many of the more sensitive members of the forum know, dummies have feelings too. Anyway, 47MM , that was my alternative take on Wing Chun here in Rio. Wing Chun Kuen Man Real traditional martial arts training is difficult to find.....most dojos in the west are Mcdojos....some are better and some are worst....but they are what they are....do you train in one?
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