Sho-ju Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 Does anyone have this book? Which kata is missing? What do you think of it?
G95champ Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 The list of shotokan kata really depends on the org. or assoc. you are with. Gichin Funakoshi left us 12 in his book karate-do Koyhan. Some go by that. The JKA does the ones included in the Best Karate Series by Nakyamia (sp) I think they do 25 not sure. I do 29 listed below. Taikyoku Shodan, Nidan and Sandan Heian Shodan Nidan, Sandan, Yondan and Godon Tekki Shodan Nidan and Sandan Bassai Dai and Bassai Sho Kanku Dai and Kanku Sho Gojushisho and Gojushisho Dai Jion, Jitte, and Gin Chinttie Gankanku Empi Wankan Sochin Unsa Meiyko Hangetsu Nijushisho The Best Karate Seires leaves out Meikyo and Wankan prob bescause Naykamia died. Fuankoshi left out a lot because he said these 12 were the most imporatant. Never said it was the only ones. Not sure on the spelling I just done it out of my head without checking it. So its prob wrong but hopefully you know what I ment. No I have not seen the book your talking about who wrote it??? (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
Killer Miller Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 Delete Taikyoku katas and you would have the JKA list I'm familiar with. We have never incorporated the Taikyoku katas in JKA. However, it doesn't mean that they weren't incorporated at one time... - Killer - Mizu No KokoroShodan - Nishiyama SenseiTable Tennis: http://www.jmblades.com/Auto Weblog: http://appliedauto.mypunbb.com/Auto Forum: http://appauto.wordpress.com/
G95champ Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 Only place I have seen the listed is in Gichin Funakoshi's book Karate-Do Koyhan and it states that he developed them from young kinds because the Heian's were too difficult. I teach them for that reason. Im a member of the FSKA now and Kenneth Funakoshi teaches the first Taikyoku but not the other 2 so again the point is the number of shotokan kata is based on you assoc. and org. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
Sho-ju Posted September 13, 2004 Author Posted September 13, 2004 Thanks for the lists of kata, but does anyone have the book?
Killer Miller Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 I had the original hard copy of that book, loaned it out, haven't seen it since... - Killer - Mizu No KokoroShodan - Nishiyama SenseiTable Tennis: http://www.jmblades.com/Auto Weblog: http://appliedauto.mypunbb.com/Auto Forum: http://appauto.wordpress.com/
Kazuya Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 I have it. It has Taikyoku Shodan included and it's missing Gojushiho Dai/Sho. The official JKA kata are 26 btw as is stated in The Best Karate Series. I swear i have seen the same book but with a 27 instead of 25 in amazon.com but i can't seem to find it right now. It may be a new edition. Btw, this book doesn't have any actual picture, just drawings but believe me, it can help you a lot better than the best karate series. Always seeking perfection...
Sho-ju Posted September 14, 2004 Author Posted September 14, 2004 I found a list of the kata included in the book on amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/096690480X/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-8041662-7408620#reader-page
Sasori_Te Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 I have the book in front of me. The katas included are as follows: Heian Shodan - Godan Tekki Shodan - Sandan Bassai Dai Jion Empi Kanku Dai Hangetsu Jitte Gankaku Ni jyu-shih-ho Chin-tei So-chin Meikyo Unsu Bassai Sho Kanku Sho Wankan Go jyu-shiho Sho Go jyu-shiho Dai As Porky puts it, "That's all folks!" A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.
Sasori_Te Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 Also, Sugiyama Sensei seems to be a very nice man and a knowledgeable instructor. I have e-mailed him a couple of times and always received a response with an explanation for any question that I had. A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.
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