markusan Posted November 1, 2004 Posted November 1, 2004 I can't give an opinion on ki but I can certainly add my support for accupuncture as a treatment for injuries. I have a long term back hip injury that occasionally plays up. I have tried many conventional and alternative therapies, The two that give me measurable relief are physio therapy including stretching and traction, and accupuncture. It gives me real relief. the interesting thing is the first needle goes into the lower back and is quite noticeable, the second needle goes deep into the back of the knee, and though I can feel it enter there's no pain. Each needle's entry, there are five in all give a completely different sensation. I have no idea what they do but they sure do something. The relief is only temporary, it seems to relax the muscles and the pressure on the sciatic nerve, but then I go back to training and mess it all up again. Now if it is placebo...I don't care, as long as it works.
47MartialMan Posted November 1, 2004 Posted November 1, 2004 I can't give an opinion on ki but I can certainly add my support for accupuncture as a treatment for injuries. I have a long term back hip injury that occasionally plays up. I have tried many conventional and alternative therapies, The two that give me measurable relief are physio therapy including stretching and traction, and accupuncture. It gives me real relief. the interesting thing is the first needle goes into the lower back and is quite noticeable, the second needle goes deep into the back of the knee, and though I can feel it enter there's no pain. Each needle's entry, there are five in all give a completely different sensation. I have no idea what they do but they sure do something. The relief is only temporary, it seems to relax the muscles and the pressure on the sciatic nerve, but then I go back to training and mess it all up again. Now if it is placebo...I don't care, as long as it works. But is it Chi, or accurately blocking nerve senses?
markusan Posted November 4, 2004 Posted November 4, 2004 Being a sceptic too I would agree it is more likely to be blocking the nerve paths. The asian acupuncturist said the needles relax the muscles allowing more blood to flow, and hence promote healing. I don't believe in ki or chi as a particular energy flow, I was merely defending the efficacy of accupuncture. I think the concept of ki as some sort of mystical energy flow is probably another misinterpretation of an old asian concept. I think of it more as synchronicity. when all your systems are working together, mind, body, breath, balance etc....when everything is just right it produces greater than normal power.
JEM618 Posted November 4, 2004 Posted November 4, 2004 Very perceptive.... 心身といつ The unification of heart, mind, and body.
47MartialMan Posted November 5, 2004 Posted November 5, 2004 Back to the poster-what on earth does he mean? Does he beleive in KI or not?
shukokai2000 Posted November 6, 2004 Posted November 6, 2004 don't know, but wearing all that weight can't be good on the knees !!!
47MartialMan Posted November 7, 2004 Posted November 7, 2004 I can see how he can affix that much weight. It all sounds too fabricated.
Vito Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 ki is black magic and my priest says youre all going to hell!!! "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." -Machiavelli
June1 Posted December 17, 2004 Posted December 17, 2004 How is it black magic? Please explain, as I still don't even know what it is. Also, how does your priest feel about you practicing martial arts? Just curious. Kool Kiais: ICE! DIE! KITES! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHH! KIAI!"Know Thyself""Circumstances make me who I am."
TheDevilAside Posted December 17, 2004 Posted December 17, 2004 Heh, I'm pretty sure Vito was being sarcastic. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill
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