Chi-I-Do

[Master Jules]

Good info MM.....thanks.

[SevenStar]

 

The result, TKD Katas emulate Japanese (Shotokan) with the addition of some high kicks. Actually, per your statement, it is the other way around, Tang So Do, pays homage to Chinese systems and flowing movement.

 

I've never heard that. Never seen it either. My first style was TSD, and a co-worker of mine currently trains it. If anything, I'd liken the fluidity of tkd and it's high kicking to northern chinese styles.

[Drunken Monkey]

from what i have read.

 

General Choi Hung Hei trained in shotokan under Funakoshi.

 

This is what he taught to his soldiers under the name of Tang Soo.

 

according to his words (translated)

 

"....I wanted to create a new Korean Martial Art that was based on scientific movement and containes a mentality fit for Korean soldiers. I researched and practiced and refined this new art fer nine years. In 1955, I created the Korean Martial Art of Taekwon-Do."

 

but then, is the Tang Soo he taught the same as the Tang Soo Do you guys are talking about?

 

i have no idea.

 

my knowledge of TKD is very limited.

[47MartialMan]

Choi didnt create Tang So Do. He had conflicts with them.

 

And yes, reportedly, General Choi Hung Hei trained in shotokan under Funakoshi.

 

And it sort of solidifies my previous statement:

 

The result, TKD Katas emulate Japanese (Shotokan) with the addition of some high kicks

[Master Jules]

Yes, I heard the same thing regarding the General training under Funakoshi.

[47MartialMan]

I had trained in both TKD and Shotokan. The katas are almost identical.

[The Hammer]

Master Kayo Ong named his organization Chi-I-Do. His organization promotes Okinawan Goju Ryu in its most traditional and orthodox form. Master Ong is Chinese and that could explain why he chose to name his organization the way he did. Ultimately, the name is not relevant. The important thing here is that the art is being transmitted in its most traditional and practical way.

 

Goju Ryu is an Okinawan martial art with roots in the Southern Shaolin Temple. It is not a Japanese martial art (with all due respect to traditional Japanese martial arts). The so called "Japanese" Goju Ryu is a degeneration of the true art. That's the reason why true traditional Goju Ryu is called "Okinawan Goju Ryu", to diferentiate itself from its "degenerate" form.

 

If anybody needs to be convinced, go see Master Kayo Ong in NY. It will be an "eye opening" experience.

 

Greetings to Master Jules,

 

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[The Hammer]

Master Kayo Ong teaches the following styles: Okinawan Goju Ryu, from the Seiko Higa and Seikishi Toguchi lineage; From the Matayoshi family lineage, he teaches Okinawan Kobudo and Kingai Ryu.

 

Both the Toguchi and Matayoshi families are of Chinese origin.

 

Chi-I-Do is not the name of a style, but the name of his (Ong's) organization.

 

Go to https://www.chi-i-do.com and check the Gokenkan link if you want to verify Master Ong's legitimacy. If you want to verify his skill and practical mastery of the martial arts, go see him!

[Master Jules]

Hey Hammer ......long time no see.....hope youve been good, and that life has been treating you well.

[Master Yoshi]

THe reason why Master Kow Loon Ong promotes Chi I Do and not Goju Ryu is because of what Hammer said. He teaches Chi Gung, Kingay Ryu, Goju Ryu and Kobudo. So since he teaches all these forms he cannot claim that he only teaches GoJu Ryu. That's why he created Chi I Do, an organization that teaches all these forms.