Looking for JKD instructor

[Lazy Scholar]

I'm not sure but from the top of my head I think it wouldn't; I could be wrong though

[47MartialMan]

But DM "appears" to bash Bruce Lee/JKD.

 

Sorry DM, if I am mistaken.

 

No offence intended.

[Lazy Scholar]

From what I've read so far. I think he 's mainly debating what the poster Jeet Kune Do is trying to sell in that an instructor isn't needed. In the sense of JKD things have to be performed properly as with any art. A lead punch is a lead punch but that thing won't have much affect on an opponent if it's executed in a sloppy manner or the application of it is done really badly because someone wasn't efficient as a training partner or instructor by pointing out the bad habits. I think that's what DM was trying to get when he gave the example of someone getting books and stuff as opposed to someone going to an instructor on the same subject matter.

[47MartialMan]

From what I've read so far. I think he 's mainly debating what the poster Jeet Kune Do is trying to sell in that an instructor isn't needed. In the sense of JKD things have to be performed properly as with any art. A lead punch is a lead punch but that thing won't have much affect on an opponent if it's executed in a sloppy manner or the application of it is done really badly because someone wasn't efficient as a training partner or instructor by pointing out the bad habits. I think that's what DM was trying to get when he gave the example of someone getting books and stuff as opposed to someone going to an instructor on the same subject matter.

 

I agree with the above.

 

But some of DM's posts (of the BL/JKD subject) seem to "bash" BruceLee/JKD is what I am tryimg to say.

 

If I am mistaken, I apologize

[GhostlySykanRyu]

Lazy Scholar-your words are very assuming, and in them you seem to show that you have overlooked what Jeet Kune Do is. I was not simply inspired by Jeet Kune Do, I AM Jeet Kune Do, for I am myself in every sense. I train hard using Lee's basis, and now I am growing in the direction of myself. Lee would be honored by his creation being used by martial artists as he had intended, not insulted.

 

As Lee said, do not argue over Jeet Kune Do because it is different than this or that, it's just a name.

 

As for the instructor debate, it's usefullness is running dry. There are pros and cons (if it will be admitted or not, *shrugs*), it is but another personal choice, the traditional simply see it as a confine instead.

[Drunken Monkey]

i'm not bashing bruce lee or jkd.

 

where do you see that?

 

i'm just bringing up the things that a lot of people conviently omit when talking about bruce lee.

 

i know full well what jkd is.

 

bruce lee said there is a difference with 'having no form' and having 'no form'.

 

who can best teach you proper form?

 

a qualified instructor.

 

again.

 

who would you trust to have better form?

 

the guy who learnt from books?

 

or the guy who learnt from dan inosanto?

 

as far as i can see,

 

there aren't any cons with having an instructor.

[Lazy Scholar]

Yeah DM I saw nothing offending. Something has to be done about this JKD character. What his motives are I don't know. Is he trying to be a smart *? Trying to be funny ? (not working if that's the case). Oh well I throw my arms up.

 

There comes a point when one needs an instructor but as one JKD instructor pointed out : if you can do it, do it right, do it without thinking about it then you don't need it, but then again you still need another person to monitor / guide you (in the form of a training partner / sparring partner). 95% of the material in JKD is to be partner based. The other 5% are self motivated ventures like striking of the bag, conditioning.

[47MartialMan]

I dont know in exact words, but from the other threads and other posts, DM seems to be "anti-Bruce/JKD" Again, as I stated before-"If I am mistaken, I apologize"

[GhostlySykanRyu]

"as far as i can see,

 

there aren't any cons with having an instructor."

 

-For the most part, students revere their instructors, which is fine. If students have no prior knowledge of martial arts however, they will try to imitate the instructor to as many details as possible. They may become skilled, but will they really have accomplished finding themselves with the exact techniques of another.

 

I believe the original question in this topic was about a JKD instructor. One can teach the basis of it...but to that there is a limited amount. The instructor will then be bound to show the student what he knows...not truely knowing what will fit the needs of the student. And the philosophy can be "taught" in a sense, but one can not be made to understand it. Truely teaching Jeet Kune Do...it would be like grasping water. Showing a person the basic movements however would be possible. Then again, theres really only one place with actual consent to do so...

 

Still, I didn't speak against instructors, I only said that they aren't need ALL OF THE TIME.

 

"Something has to be done about this JKD character. What his motives are I don't know. Is he trying to be a smart *? Trying to be funny ? (not working if that's the case). Oh well I throw my arms up. "

 

-Now you're just trying to be pompous. You can see very clearly that I'm here to learn and share my opinions just as anyone else...the fact that they differ from yours doesn't mean that "something needs to be done about me". I suppose I'll just throw my arms up as well...

[47MartialMan]

Who stated this?:

 

Something has to be done about this JKD character. What his motives are I don't know. Is he trying to be a smart *? Trying to be funny ? (not working if that's the case). Oh well I throw my arms up. "