Looking for JKD instructor

[Rick]

Sure does, they can kick my butt when i'm doing something wrong - i've never seen anything wrong with a little constructive criticism...

 

Rick

[Drunken Monkey]

before you can really start the jkd process, you need to learn 'proper' classical/traditional techniques.

 

the best way to do this is with a proper instructor.

 

once you have learnt the traditional way of doing it, you can then begin to feel for what you don't need to do.

 

then and only then does the technique become your own.

 

before you dissolve the technique and principle

 

you have to learn and abide by the technique and principle.

 

like the jkd tenet goes.

 

remove all excess.

 

first you have to learn, then you can remove from that learning.

 

and unless you're learning the thing properly,

 

you won't really know what it is you are taking awayfrom or if it really needs to be taken away.

 

again.

 

going back to the cloned person example.

 

stick a guy in a roo with a pile of books on silat, kali, wing chun, boxing and kick-boxing and tell him to learn.

 

stick the guy in a room with dan inosanto and tell him to learn silat, kali, wing chun, boxing and kick-boxing.

 

who would you put your money on?

[47MartialMan]

I have to think about that one also.

[Lazy Scholar]

I'm gone for this long and I'm greeted with three pages of this stuff?

 

to the man using the alias of JKD; you're doing nothing but disgracing the art and science that was born from the genius of Bruce Lee. When talking about JKD, what are you addressing it as ? a philosophy? fighting method? Let us know because we just dont' want any confusion because if you're going to address JKD as it is, then I'd say you're going to address JKD as a WHOLE; a whole which includes not only philosophy, but principles which govern the use of the tools of the trade.

 

For Everyone else:

 

Bruce viewed punches and kicks as tools of the trade. He made a distinction between tools of the trade vs techniques. Techniques are means or ways of delivering the tool; now i'm not referring to performing the tools, just their delivery in terms of timing and placement.

 

In JKD there are tools that a JKD student learns: On Guard Position / (at times) natural position, lead punch, rear straight, rear cross, backfist, elbow, lead hook kick, lead side kick, lead front kick, etc. There are also principles applied to these tools and their delivery : economy of motion, longest weapon to nearest target, utilization of strongest side forward, etc. Philosophy wherein the cultivation takes place where eventually a dissolving takes place where one doesn't think about delivery of the tools but rather he psychologically has no notion of style in that he is no longer concerned whether his style is the style and so forth.

 

For one to say that one doesn't need an instructor, maybe maybe not. Probably more important is the need of a training partner but then again either one or both involved must have a sufficient idea as to what the tools of JKD are and how they're performed as well as how to train those properly, which goes back to either of the people having previous JKD training with antoehr person that has sufficient exposure to JKD and so forth.

 

I hate to make this long but when I see someone posting under a banner of JKD and talks the stuff that he or she has spoken then I just have to put my foot in and stop the rubbish that is being spread.

[Lazy Scholar]

I'm gone for this long and I'm greeted with three pages of this stuff?

 

to the man using the alias of JKD; you're doing nothing but disgracing the art and science that was born from the genius of Bruce Lee. When talking about JKD, what are you addressing it as ? a philosophy? fighting method? Let us know because we just dont' want any confusion because if you're going to address JKD as it is, then I'd say you're going to address JKD as a WHOLE; a whole which includes not only philosophy, but principles which govern the use of the tools of the trade.

 

For Everyone else:

 

Bruce viewed punches and kicks as tools of the trade. He made a distinction between tools of the trade vs techniques. Techniques are means or ways of delivering the tool; now i'm not referring to performing the tools, just their delivery in terms of timing and placement.

 

In JKD there are tools that a JKD student learns: On Guard Position / (at times) natural position, lead punch, rear straight, rear cross, backfist, elbow, lead hook kick, lead side kick, lead front kick, etc. There are also principles applied to these tools and their delivery : economy of motion, longest weapon to nearest target, utilization of strongest side forward, etc. Philosophy wherein the cultivation takes place where eventually a dissolving takes place where one doesn't think about delivery of the tools but rather he psychologically has no notion of style in that he is no longer concerned whether his style is the style and so forth.

 

For one to say that one doesn't need an instructor, maybe maybe not. Probably more important is the need of a training partner but then again either one or both involved must have a sufficient idea as to what the tools of JKD are and how they're performed as well as how to train those properly, which goes back to either of the people having previous JKD training with antoehr person that has sufficient exposure to JKD and so forth.

 

I hate to make this long but when I see someone posting under a banner of JKD and talks the stuff that he or she has spoken then I just have to put my foot in and stop the rubbish that is being spread.

[Lazy Scholar]

drunken , you're on spot with the process of learning, abiding, and dissolving cool; finally someone who gets the idea

[Rick]

Mmmmm, point taken DM - i think that the only way to practice JKD is to go about developing ur own JKD the way Bruce did - so in a sense me being a mixed martial artist and taking what i find to be useful would essentially class me as JKD man.

 

Rick

[Lazy Scholar]

rick no it doesn't . you either train in the art and science of JKD or you don't. You can go your merry way and utilize JKD philosophy, but that'd be the only thing really that you can give JKd credit for. IT's like the idea of stealing intellectual property. And why would you go as far as to give something else credit for something that you came up with your own. Isn't it more proper to say that you were inspired by JKD? Rather than you call yourself a JKD student? I'm sure anybody of any art would feel kind of robbed when you say what you do is art X when you're not even a practitioner of art X, again rather than saying you were inspired by Art X

[Rick]

Ahh, yeah good point too... I stand corrected.

 

Rick

[47MartialMan]

rick no it doesn't . you either train in the art and science of JKD or you don't. You can go your merry way and utilize JKD philosophy, but that'd be the only thing really that you can give JKd credit for. IT's like the idea of stealing intellectual property. And why would you go as far as to give something else credit for something that you came up with your own. Isn't it more proper to say that you were inspired by JKD? Rather than you call yourself a JKD student? I'm sure anybody of any art would feel kind of robbed when you say what you do is art X when you're not even a practitioner of art X, again rather than saying you were inspired by Art X

 

Very good point indeed.

 

But does that give to the opinion that people would bash Bruce personally, or his system?