Shorinryu Sensei Posted September 6, 2004 Posted September 6, 2004 * And yes, i'm aware bears can climb trees, but they are not as effective in combat when you're kicking their nose as they attempt to climb. Also, they don't climb so well as they grow older and trees can't readily support them. Just a quick comment on this. Grizzley can't, and dont climb trees. Their claws are to long, even as young cubs. Adult black bear will climb trees, but as you said, as adults they don't as often as they do when younger. Also, a bear, if attacking you, won't climb a tree to get you. They will stay at the bottom of the tree, sometimes for DAYS, and wait you out. Grizzly are a very cunningcritter, and have been known to stalk you, set ambushes, run ahead of you as you walk and attack you after you think they are far behind and safe. Another point about grizzly is that they are a large (up to 800lbs) and very strong animal. Think about what size a tree is for a moment that has branches low enough for you to grab, and then climb. It's going to be a young tree with a small diameter. Older trees don't have branches at the lower level normally. People, you go up a young tree like that, and if a grizz really wants you...it's entirely possible, and has happened, that the grizz will push the tree over. You make that even easier for the bear by adding weight to the top of the tree and making it top heavy. But don't worry...bears normally aren't that aggressive or want you that badly. Hiking in bear country, which basically describes the area I live in, is generally safe if you use a little comon sense. Make noise, don't wear purfume/deoderants, DO NOT TAKE DOGS WITH YOU, etc. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!"
SevenStar Posted September 6, 2004 Posted September 6, 2004 I've been "attacked" by a baby goat. Strong sucker too. At the time, I was in high school, working at a local tv repair shop part time. We had to repair a TV that belonged to some woman deep in the sticks... She lived on a huge farmland type area and had no neighbors for miles. When we got there, I heard a dog barking and expected I'd probably run into him, so I wasn't too worried. I got out of the truck and my partner went to the woman's door. I was opening the back to get some tools out, and when I shut the door and turned around, "WHAM!" I get slammed against the truck. A goat had slammed two of its hooved into my chest and was staring me in the face. After I got over the "WTF?" factor, I pushed him off, which I guess made it mad, cuz it charged. I was able to get out of the way, and it's owner then called it. The woman told me that goats determine whether or not you are friend or foe by smelling your breath, and it was just checking me. Afterwards, I guess it was in a playful mood, cuz it would run up to me, butt my leg lightly, then charge and do it again.
Shorinryu Sensei Posted September 6, 2004 Posted September 6, 2004 I've been "attacked" by a baby goat. Strong sucker too. And you'd actually admit that on a public forum? One "attack, which wasn't really, but sure made me nervous, was years ago. My sister worked as a secretary/vet tech at a animal hospital and I was visiting her one day. We were talking on opposite sides of the waist high counter when a man walked in with a box in his arms. It was full of maybe 8-10 puppies, obviously only a few days old. My sister made some comment about "Oh, Daisy had her puppies?" and the guy replied "Yep, and I'd like the doctor to check them out and make sure they're healthy." My sister had to pick one up and hand one to me of course (cute little dickens). I had no idea what kind of dogs they were. There was a scratching sound at the door and the guy says "Daisy hasn't been away from her pups yet, can I let her in?"..to which, of course, my sister says "Sure." So the guy goes to the door, opens it, and the biggest dang Great Dane you've ever seen comes bounding into the room and goes right up to the counter and puts her front paws on it...with me standing right there holding one of the pups. People, I'm 6'6" tall (abot 198cm) and this Great Dane was almost looking me straight in the eye. I could imagine what was going through "Mom's" brain. Something like "Who are you, and what are you doing holding my baby?", so I slowly put the pup back in the box and backed away. It's a rather scary and intimidating feeling to have a dog as tall as you are stand on its hind legs and look you right in the eye as you're holding one of its babys. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!"
SoonerJohn Posted September 6, 2004 Posted September 6, 2004 Mean little goat. My grandmother had a goat. I jumped in my truck and took off one day without realizing it was under the tire. I got out and it gave me a sad little goat noise and it hobbled off. I just assumed it died, but about 3 weeks later it showed up without any apparent injuries. It always gave me an evil look after that like it was going to get even. So I made sure not to lay under any tires when the goat was around.
Goju 4 Life Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 I remember rexently that a mountain biker was attacked by a mountain lion. It's there habitat. And the people who get attacked sur eknow it. If i had to choose between karate and everything else, I would choose karate so i could beat up whoever made me make the decision and have everything else
P.A.L Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Shorinryu sensei ; "Just a quick comment on this. Grizzley can't, and dont climb trees. Their claws are to long, even as young cubs. Adult black bear will climb trees, but as you said, as adults they don't as often as they do when younger. Also, a bear, if attacking you, won't climb a tree to get you. They will stay at the bottom of the tree, sometimes for DAYS, and wait you out. Grizzly are a very cunningcritter, and have been known to stalk you, set ambushes, run ahead of you as you walk and attack you after you think they are far behind and safe. " is it possible for a human to kill a bear by knife ? is there any report or claim about such a encounter.
Shorinryu Sensei Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 is it possible for a human to kill a bear by knife ? is there any report or claim about such a encounter. I'd doubt it. A bear has a tough hide, and very think, strong muscles that you'd have to cut through. Maybe if you hog tied and muzzled it so that it couldn't move. Many people think bears are slow critters...trust me, they aren't. Not only can they outrun a man, but their paw/arm speed is incredible. I don't know about a black bear, but an adult grizz can break your neck or back with one swipe. There's not many humans that can do that. Forget the movies where you see a grizz get up on its hind legs and walk towards you like Frankenstein. They don't do that. The only reason they get on their hind legs is to see farther, sniff the air, or to reach up for something (you in a tree? ) Their goal in an attack is like a BJJ black belt..to get you on the ground. Evehn a smalla, young bear...say around 100lbs, can make mush out of you if it so desires. Please understand, bears aren't normally aggressive to humans, and don't hunt them. They don't like people and would prefer to avoid them if possible. The storys you hear about people getting mauled or killed by a bear are usually caused by the stupidity of the humans, not because the bear is hungry or looking to kill a human. Even a seeminly harmless deer can be lethal if the situation is right. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!"
ZR440 Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 I had a big black bear run in front of my truck at night not too long ago. It scared the scat outa me. It's happy hour somewhere in the world.
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