Matousek Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 When fighting someone, I suggest keeping your distance (if you can) , dodging and reviewing there moves. Try tricking them into there counter attack so you can see what they do, when you do a move. Once you've established there "predictable movements" , move in for the so called kill. "Knowledge is Power!"~Matousek~Martial Arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevilAside Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I think that's a waste of time. Why predict their movements from distance A, when you're going to be doing the important fighting from distance B? People fight differently from different distances. He might be a Tae Kwon Do fighter when he's 5 feet away from you, but if you close in he might suddenly clinch you and turn into a Muay Thai fighter, and if you're really unlucky, he'll turn into a Brazillian Jui Jitsu fighter and treat you like a rag doll. I hate you grapplers so much If anything, I think the method you're talking about will help you determine how skilled the fighter is. Observe his footwork, his stance, his physical prowess, quickness, and so on. From there, search for weak spots and openings. When you see an opening, explot it. Or if you're a really confident fighter, make him open up. But, heh, don't think about it too much, either. Maybe I'm missing the point. Maybe that's what you meant to say afterall? But I don't think I really understand what you mean by "predictable movements". Unless he's a really inexperienced fighter, or just an idiot, he's not going to have a set pattern of moves. Kick, kick, punch, block. Kick, kick, punk, block. Kick, kick, puch, block. ...? "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battousai16 Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 ^agreed^ in fact, often times, fighters, say, a TKD stylist will WANT you to keep your distance, so it would be best to get in really close and take a lot of their kicks away. if i wanna' sit there and dodge attacks all day, i'll just leave the fight altogether, which is the ideal situation. i've always admired the "they strike i'll counter" fighters, myself, which is what i prefer. "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 When fighting someone, I suggest keeping your distance (if you can) , dodging and reviewing there moves. Try tricking them into there counter attack so you can see what they do, when you do a move. Once you've established there "predictable movements" , move in for the so called kill.if you do this, you'll get your * handed to you. Real fights rarely end up like sparring matches. Things get ugly fast, and spending time 'reviewing' your opponent is merely giving your opponent the opportunity to overwhelm you. The main problem here is... you're using your mind... thinking... instead of using your muscle memory... acting/reacting. The dependency on thought makes you 'slower' and more susceptible to 'non-standard' street fighting approaches. The fact is, in a street fight... predictable just doesn't fall into the equation. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta1 Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Well, TDA, B16 & WW said most of what I wanted to say to this. I'll just add that this kind of thinking is one of the problems with strictly no contact sparing. You tend to dance around at a distance, trying to 'read' an opponent who is only trying to fan you a litttle. When you spar with intent to hit, the first thing you'll notice is that distances close. Then, you'll tend to focus more on what he's doing than trying to time him or decipher patterns. Also, no-contact vs. contact sparing is like stick fighting with padded sticks vs. live stick. You suddenly get a little more respect for your opponent, take less chances, and try to end it a little quicker. Stand around trying to read him, the story will be printed on your hide. Freedom isn't free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Once you've established there "predictable movements" , move in for the so called kill. I'll agree also with the above posts from the others. In a fight, you don't have the time to establish anything other than that he is trying to take you out, and to react. Yes, you can see openings and weakness's right away if you're experienced enough, but that needs to become nearly immediate if you truly want to survive a fight. The primary focus of learning to defend yourself is to teach your body to react to stimuli (is that spelled right?) immediately. While you're dancing around watching your opponent and thinking "Well, if I do this...he'll do this...", you're going to get nailed. You can figure out what went wrong when you wake up I suppose...assuming of course, that you're able to wake up. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matousek Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Well I guess keeping your distance is a bad thing in any length of time.I like keeping my distance for awhile (15 seconds or less) then I'll move in and mess with em. (rabbit punch to the ribs, head etc) I like to have fun in "some fights". Other fights I'll simply bring you down one shot. My point is this tactic is only for some situations, and some people. "Knowledge is Power!"~Matousek~Martial Arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevilAside Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 My point is this tactic is only for some situations, and some people.I'd say this only works for video games. If I'm trying to defeat a boss, I'll try to find "predictable movements" and exploit them. It's very effective, especially when I'm playing "Ninja Gaiden" on my friend's Xbox. But uh... don't use your inductive reasoning skills in a real fight too much. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battousai16 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 It's very effective, especially when I'm playing "Ninja Gaiden" on my friend's Xbox. oh my god, that game is wicked hard! granted, a lot of that is just because the x box has stupid controllers, but geez! it's nigh impossible! "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevilAside Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Yeah, those worm things that shoot electricity piss me off. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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