harleyt26 Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 How much difference can there be 1904-2004.As far as fighting is concerned the rules have never changed and the same basics still apply.I think if you research what was taught by Taira Shinken and Akamine Eisuke and the other weapons masters you will find the same logics apply today to the same weapons.We have some technilogical additions to our arsenals but that does not change the concepts of battle.Walking down the street with weapons was looking for trouble then as it is now.Although it may not be legal to go armed most of us find a way. migi kamae,migi bo kihon ichi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamesu Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 I've thrown knives and axes at targets for years. Sure, tossing knives at trees and targets is one thing, but get the adrenaline flowing, and a moving target that just might also be throwing things (rocks, knives, bullets) at you...that's an entirely different ball game. And the farther away your target is, the harder it is to throw accurately. 5', 10'...20'+? The farther away it is, the less accurate it will be. Hitting the cranium with a knife is a long shot at best, even from a close distance.Ok, i cant argue that hitting a moving target isnt a LOT harder than still targets, (we tie slices of logs to thick rope and hang them from taller branches and then set them swinging,) but still not the same as an attacker i know. I was just conveying the point that the vast majority of REAL throwing-knives are a single piece of tempered metal, where the handle is basically the same thickness(in depth,) as the blade and a little thinner(in width,) only without a sharp edge or point. This makes it quite easy to send the knife handle 1st through a target.Also, unless the person has his back to you, he will see you chamber yoru throw and make an attempt to avoid it. Again, the farther away from you he is, the easier it will be to avoid. And then you've lost your weapon, and possibly any advantage you might have had against a more skilled opponent.Most of my knives are holstered at the hip, ie; on a belt. So when practicing at wooden targets I often draw and throw straight from the hips. Probably the least telegraphed pre-load to the throw,without compromising distance or force. I just want to add, that from my posts on this thread you prob' all think im a knife weilding maniac, but really im not. I never carry a knife around the streets, nor would i intend on using one on another person unless my life was at risk, and even then it would be a hard decision. Osu. "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 [i just want to add, that from my posts on this thread you prob' all think im a knife weilding maniac, but really im not. I never carry a knife around the streets, nor would i intend on using one on another person unless my life was at risk, and even then it would be a hard decision. *****Making mental note to cancel my email to Australian Police***** My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matousek Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 I was just thinking, that hitting a Swing log slice would be like hitting an acrobat.I dont know why your target would be an acrobat, but if you ever had to protect you or your hotdog at the circus, A swinging log slice would be excellent training,lol. "Knowledge is Power!"~Matousek~Martial Arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 Just a quick comment on the swing log you practice on for a moving target. It swings at a steady, predictable and easy to follow and anticipatable rate. A human being doesn't and can move at trandon, including forward or backwards, side to side. *waiting for him to tell me he has somebody standing by it and changing the rate now* And if you don't carry your throwing knives with you on a regular, if ever, basis..what good are they to you in a fight? My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 ......not entirely unrelated during my art school years, i for some reason started to throw scapels about. swann number 3 with a 10a blade. i'm quite accurate up to 10 feet. i'm pretty good with a deck of cards too. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battousai16 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 i used to be damn good with a deck of cards, just because when i was 6ish-8ish i wanted to be just like gambit from the x men. i'll bet i've lost it now... where's a deck of cards... "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe2002 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Hello everybody. This is my first post so here goes nothing. My two cents are that the Bo has an advantage over the Sai and that all thing being equal the Bo weilder will live at the end of the encounter. Now because things are never equal here is some food for thought. First is that the situation will always dictate, for instance if the fight is taking place with alot of trees around the two fighters then the sai weilder has the terrain to his advantage which would effectivly take away the extra pluses to weilding a Bo. Another thing I would like to throw out there is that the fighter who make the lest amount of mistakes wins is the winner, or maybe a better way to say it is that the winner of a fight is the fighter who make the fewest mistakes. I guess the point I'm trying to make with that comment is that everybody makes mistakes wither it be that they didn't strike with proper technique or they missed an oppoutunity, but they make mistake and no matter what the weapon they weild the person who made the the fewist mistakes wins. of course that's given no more are made after the fight. Hopefully my post makes sense and that I didn't make myself sound like a complete idiot. The more you sweat in peace the less you bleed in war.The Winner is the one who makes the fewest mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauzin Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Hey Joe! Welcome to the forums. Good points. To outsiders, Joe and I are in the same school here in Boise, ID. We work under Sensie Dean Stephens a 9th degree under the late Seikichi Odo. Joe happens to be his son and my senior in the empty hand side of the house. He is very good at what he does and has a lot of experiance (like his whole life growing up under his dad) in weapons and Okinawan Kenpo. He is especially good with the bo, jo, sai, tonfa, and eku. Well now I really have to watch what I post on this forum. Any of it could get back to our class. Man the internet just isn't safe any more! The only two things that stand between an effective art and one that isn't are a tradition to draw knowledge from and the mind to practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matousek Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Muhahahahahaha! I found formidable victims! Just messing with yah...Im not a internet predator. "Knowledge is Power!"~Matousek~Martial Arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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