Sho-ju Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 What style do you study and why do you like it? I'm looking for a sifu right now and not sure which style to study, locally all I have in my area is a Shaolin school. With a bit of driving I could study Pak Mei with Dan Pai's grandson or Mantis and chin na...what do you think of these styles.
Master Jules Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 Try to find a Traditional Okinawan Goju ryu dojo.....If you find a qualified instructor, it is one of the most "complete" arts I have ever seen or trained in....It descends from white crane, and has elements of chin na, pakua, chi gung, kyoshu jitsu, is a stand up punch and kick art, as well as a complete grappling system. ~Master Jules ~Master Jules......aka "The Sandman""I may be a trained killer......but Im really a nice guy"
wing chun kuen man Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Sho-ju, There are quiet a few Preying Mantis styles of kung fu. From what I have read about them they can be very effective in self defense. There are some styles that are even said to be similar to Wing Chun. If I were you I would at least check out the school and find out what style of Mantis they teach and let us know. Wing Chun Kuen Man Real traditional martial arts training is difficult to find.....most dojos in the west are Mcdojos....some are better and some are worst....but they are what they are....do you train in one?
Sho-ju Posted September 1, 2004 Author Posted September 1, 2004 Try to find a Traditional Okinawan Goju ryu dojo.....If you find a qualified instructor, it is one of the most "complete" arts I have ever seen or trained in....It descends from white crane, and has elements of chin na, pakua, chi gung, kyoshu jitsu, is a stand up punch and kick art, as well as a complete grappling system. ~Master Jules I did study meibukan goju for 6 months and didn't like it. I love to attack, I was taught goju as a defensive art only. The local mantis school is called Wu Shen Temple, it has 34 empty handed forms and 16 weapons forms. That seems like alot but they also do chin na, train 3 times a week for 2 hours each. The cost is only $45 bucks a month, seems like a steal. The first rule about the Pak Mei school is, nobody talks about Pak Mei. I know nothing about it. sj
Master Jules Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 The 3 major Kans of goju are the Shoreikan, the jundokan, and the meibukan.....even though their founders are direct students of Miyagi, there are slight differences in the katas....just very subtle....BUT.....ALL of the Goju katas begin with a defensive move......this is due to the Buddhist influence in the art.......NEVER attack......but always be prepared to defend. ~Master Jules......aka "The Sandman""I may be a trained killer......but Im really a nice guy"
Shorin Ryuu Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Well...I'm sure if you only trained for 6 months, you only learned "defensive" stuff. Usually at the beginning levels, a lot of teachers are more concerned with making sure the student can handle danger without harm to themselves first. Later on, of course, the defensive things you learn turn into offensive things at the same time... I obviously can't speak for that dojo in particular, but that is my guess as to what happened... Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
Sho-ju Posted September 1, 2004 Author Posted September 1, 2004 Because I have a nidan in karate already, I trained with the black belts...it was still boring with mostly defence drills, etc. It could've been the school.
wing chun kuen man Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Sho-ju, For more info on Pak Mei check out the following web sites : https://www.pakmei.ca https://www.whiteeyebrowpakmeikungfu.homestead.com It will be interesting to know what the actual name of the Praying Mantis style that is practiced in the school. As far as I know Wu Shen does not refer to a style, but I could be wrong. Wing Chun Kuen Man Real traditional martial arts training is difficult to find.....most dojos in the west are Mcdojos....some are better and some are worst....but they are what they are....do you train in one?
Master Jules Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Sho-Ju..... Having a dan rank....you should know that countless repetitions of any technique isnt supposed to be"entertaining"......It is done so that when your defensive response is needed, it becomes a natural reaction, not something you have to "think" to do......countless repetitions......yeah....boring....but.....VERY purposefull. ~Master Jules......aka "The Sandman""I may be a trained killer......but Im really a nice guy"
Sho-ju Posted September 1, 2004 Author Posted September 1, 2004 Sho-Ju..... Having a dan rank....you should know that countless repetitions of any technique isnt supposed to be"entertaining"......It is done so that when your defensive response is needed, it becomes a natural reaction, not something you have to "think" to do......countless repetitions......yeah....boring....but.....VERY purposefull. Master Jules, I understand countless repetitions, my rank is in shotokan. My point is, none of the training in goju that I encountered was difficult or advanced, that is also why I posted that it could've been the dojo I train at. It was the weakest karate dojo I've ever trained in.
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