Raging Squirrel Posted September 5, 2004 Posted September 5, 2004 For traditional Shaolin training in the Portland area, look here: https://www.shaolintemple.org
wing chun kuen man Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 I just want to say that some Wing Chun styles DO cover grappling. It all depends on which lineages the instructors/sifus belong to. In my school of traditional Wing Chun, (mainland China lineage), we are taught grappling, in the later stages of the Chum Kiu level. And yes, Wing Chun is a complete system (not perfect, just complete), and is a very effective self defense system. Wing Chun Kuen Man Real traditional martial arts training is difficult to find.....most dojos in the west are Mcdojos....some are better and some are worst....but they are what they are....do you train in one?
Drunken_Apprentice Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Which lineages teach grappling? There's a guy around here who was taught by Jiu Wan and they appear to focus primarily on standup techniques, though my exposure to it was some class observation and a few questions. I hear about "anti grappling" programs, but I'm not sure what that covers. How does WC handle the ground game from your experience?
wing chun kuen man Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Drunken_Apprentice, To my knowledge at least some mainland chinese lineages teach ground fighting. The ground fighting in Wing Chun takes mainly the style´s stand-up principles and concepts and adapts it to the ground. When on the ground, striking techniques and Chin-na techniques can be used effectively to overwhelm/defeat the opponent. Note: Even on the ground using the wing chun principles one can deliver powerful punchs. WC ground fighting is only taught in the later stages of the Chum Kiu level. I am still new to it but have a good understanding of the concepts involved. I would suggest that the next time you check out a class ask the teacher if ground fighting is covered in the system´s curriculum and if so is it Wing Chun ground fighting or is it "adopted" ground fighting techniques from perhaps BJJ. If you are looking to train Wing Chun then I would advise that you find a school that teaches all aspects of wing chun without having had to "import" techniques from other systems to complete their system. Wing Chun Kuen Man Real traditional martial arts training is difficult to find.....most dojos in the west are Mcdojos....some are better and some are worst....but they are what they are....do you train in one?
Gary Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 Edit "Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." - Satchel Paige.
Zhong Gau Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 Chuang Tzu Ni of seattle has a Chinese student who has a guang do in portland. they also have another in the northern cali-so ore area. not sure what they're called, though. Ah! Mantis Grasshopper, i think you would do very nicely on a bowl of rice!
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