Drunken Monkey Posted September 4, 2004 Posted September 4, 2004 neither. but i left out a little bit. kung fu is nor originally a mandarin term. or as i said elsewhere, kung fu is a cantonese term. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
Drunken Monkey Posted September 4, 2004 Posted September 4, 2004 neither. but i missed out a little bit. kung fu is not originally a mandarin term. or as i said elsewhere kun fu is originally a cantonese term. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
47MartialMan Posted September 7, 2004 Author Posted September 7, 2004 So, being exposed to Mandarin, is where my original discussion is started. If one is exposed to Mandarin Chinese. And these Chinese do not relate to Kung Fu as a martial art.........well you get it.... also....per Chinese dictionaries that I have just recently checked in a book stores, kung fu is not the translation for martial arts.....all of the ones I had opened, list wu shu.....only two list "kung fu", but lists it as skill, work, etc.... I believe the term came to "identify" itself out of popularity, etc.
Sasori_Te Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Can I ask question? People have already said that kung fu = skill acquired over time. I'm not getting the point of this post anymore. If you know something else besides this (respectfully asking), please state it. Inquiring minds want to know. A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.
Drunken Monkey Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 not too keen on kung fu=skill acquired over time one translation i like is 'excellence through practice' i don't know why this has gone on for so long. in relation to the title of the thread, everything has been said. yes, kung fu isn't a specific style. the next point is that kung fu is/isn't used to refer to chinese martial arts. i keep pointing out that because of the conceptual nature of the term, there isn't a fixed use/meaning of the term. i also mentioned that it is primarily a cantonese term but he keeps throwing mandarin back at me. not sure if he's aware of this but mandarin and cantonese are different enough to make them practically two different languages. fact is, kung fu is an old term (150+years) from the cantonese used to describe the fighting arts of china. it is derived from the term 'kung' which is something you train/practice/art e.g chi kung = thing that you do to practice breathing shun kung = thing that you do to practice mystics noi kung = thing that you do to practice internals when you train, you 'linn mo kung' 'practice the thing that you practice to get good at fighting' (direct translating of characters) or 'practice things that help fighting' (translating into intended meaning) heck. i can throw up examples of how the parts are used and where they come from all day but y'know, can't please everybody. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
Sasori_Te Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 I'm following your answers DM. I'm just curious as to why 47martial wants to keep dragging things out without giving any of his own solid answers. It's a bit tedious really. A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.
47MartialMan Posted September 7, 2004 Author Posted September 7, 2004 I'm following your answers DM. I'm just curious as to why 47martial wants to keep dragging things out without giving any of his own solid answers. It's a bit tedious really. I am getting ready to post my final opinion. I am reading others (and other threads). After I post my final opinion on the subject/thread, unless someone directs a post towards me, or for that matter post on the thread, that is different and interesting, I will no longer be on that thread. Yes, it is tedious to come back and respond.
Drunken Monkey Posted September 8, 2004 Posted September 8, 2004 usually, when people don't give answers it cos they don't have any. i mean, isn't easier to just keep asking for other people to post things to prove what they say, as opposed to having to actually prove your own statements? post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
47MartialMan Posted September 8, 2004 Author Posted September 8, 2004 usually, when people don't give answers it cos they don't have any. i mean, isn't easier to just keep asking for other people to post things to prove what they say, as opposed to having to actually prove your own statements? No, my answers are my opinions from what I have been told, experienced/learned and researched. In all, the preceding process continues. So with my opinions, my final, will be a result from the process per as they unfold. But such opinions change as I read other people's opinions. Or such opinions of others I will agree or concur with my original opinion. So, my final opinion maybe spoken/written by someone else that I agree with. To qoute a American saying "He/she Took The Words Right Out of My Mouth" I am not claiming to have answers, just opinions. I have the right to my opinions as others have of theirs.
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