kanryo2 Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 > The super tag team of thaiboxerken and 47MM. > Whom here, are also skeptical in some way? Sign me up on the skeptic list... Let me clarify my thoughts on the "chi" debate. I thought that the description on the old 24fightingchickens sight was useful. Chi may be useful as a way to describe the "feeling" someone has as far as generating or applying energy. I don't see any reason to debate that aspect - if it's a useful way for people in their training, then why not use it? But as far as there being some undected-by-science system of channels and meridians, I'm skeptical of that. I recently read "Qigong, Chinese Medicine or Pseudoscience". It was an awkward read. It's not entirely clear what the authors believe. It starts with a classical description of qi and qigong (as if it's given as fact), then show several instances of Chinese quackery reminiscent of American faith healing. It closes with advice on finding a good teacher. So maybe they're just denouncing "false qigong"??? I couldn't figure it out. Prometheus Books usually has pretty good "skeptic" books and I'm guessing they published this translation of a Chinese text to fill a void in the debate. The books by Dr. Yang Jing-Ming present Chi theory in more detail and he presents a pretty open minded approach toward investigation by western science. But on the question of skeptism, I think extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. I'm a bit disappointed that there hasn't been (that I can find) a serious effort to conduct double-blind experiments to see how much we can benefit from Traditional Chinese Medicine. I was hoping that the first book I mentioned would have described a more complete investigation into Chi and Qigong. I'm still waiting... --kanryo2
Sinar89 Posted February 6, 2005 Posted February 6, 2005 like he said, the master believed it was actualyl energy in you. you'll hear about some people who do somthing called *can't remember* akido i think it is and they actually think that they can harness the "chi" and shoot it, dragon ball z style. make shields, energy blasts and the like. its funny to read but i think its pretty stupid cause no one can do this.
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