Luckykboxer Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 that wasnt exactly what i meant soulassassin hehe. I mean that no physical technique you can do short of killing, or completely impairing someone can guarantee they wont come back after you either then or later. But if the person is mentally and emotionally finished, and thinks there is nothing they can do to win(obviously this has alot to do with their moral code) then you have ended the fight. Unfortunately now days, you can beat someone up, knock them out, hurt them and they still dont think they lost, they think you got lucky, and while you assume the fight is over they are just getting started. I personally think if you hurt someone bad, then you better be ready for them to come back after you. Also once you have made your point and the opponent has mentally and emotionally given up, its a good idea to quit and move on instead of press the point and reenergize the opponent.. Far too often i have seen someone outclass an opponent and have the opponent reach the defeated stage, only to see the victor go on and press it for whatever dumb reason and end up pushing the wrong buttons and he has a fight on his hands again that he isnt ready for and he cant win. does that make more sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sAtelitte Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 that wasnt exactly what i meant soulassassin hehe. I mean that no physical technique you can do short of killing, or completely impairing someone can guarantee they wont come back after you either then or later. But if the person is mentally and emotionally finished, and thinks there is nothing they can do to win(obviously this has alot to do with their moral code) then you have ended the fight. Unfortunately now days, you can beat someone up, knock them out, hurt them and they still dont think they lost, they think you got lucky, and while you assume the fight is over they are just getting started. I personally think if you hurt someone bad, then you better be ready for them to come back after you. Also once you have made your point and the opponent has mentally and emotionally given up, its a good idea to quit and move on instead of press the point and reenergize the opponent.. Far too often i have seen someone outclass an opponent and have the opponent reach the defeated stage, only to see the victor go on and press it for whatever dumb reason and end up pushing the wrong buttons and he has a fight on his hands again that he isnt ready for and he cant win. does that make more sense? Intresting point but how are you going to make him give up emotionally in the first place? Either you cause him severe pain (physical technique) and end the fight quickly or like (i think) you're saying, keep fighting him until he gives up and letting him now your the superior fighter but that could take a long while if he's going on anger and adrenaline and the risk of getting injured yourself is gets bigger as well. So in my opinion i think a very painfull physical attack would still be the best choice, even if it means he could come back after you afterwards https://www.shaolin.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KempoTiger Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Hey the tried and true method that I teach as a devastating end to most fights, is a side-kick to the side of your opponents knee, then cross cover with your hands up in case they continue to fight, or if a friend of their's approaches......Most tend to give up once they've lost a limb. "Question oneself, before you question others" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckykboxer Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 hey satellite... I was born in Belgium btw anyways... sometimes eys it could be a long fight. But alot of the time I have seen people give up when they see someone basically hitting them in many different spots and ways in a short period of time, and have complete control while making them look rather silly. For some odd reason I have always looked at fighting much like a chess game.. and like chess you can get a check mate in 4 moves, or it can be a grueling long battle.. /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 anything that keeps your oponent from even being able to fight back is how id end any fight i was even remotely at risk in, unless i had the option of running the hell away. in other words, any sort of throw to the ground (so to run away), else anything that knocks him out (power punches for example) or disables him from fighting (broken arm, rib, kicks to the knee, etc). and if you have the opportunity, dont hesitate to stomp on your grounded opponent a few times for good measure. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." -Machiavelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 (notice my quote!) "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." -Machiavelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sAtelitte Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 and if you have the opportunity, dont hesitate to stomp on your grounded opponent a few times for good measure. Not that it's so important in this thread but that could get you into trouble from a legal point of view. Kick in the groin, kick to the knees, ribs,... they could be used in a context of self defense, but when kicking your opponent when he's down on the ground....hmmm i'm not sure but i don't think the judge will give you much credit if you're going for self defense. (if it was in a one on one fight of course) hey satellite... I was born in Belgium btw Well you're lucky indeed if you moved away from here With this kind of weather we've had the whole summer everyone's condsidering to cross over the atlantic. If it keeps raining we'll be swimming anyway. but thats another topic https://www.shaolin.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karategurl Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Yikes! Vito sounds like a killer! of course you will use as much force as needed. I mean if your attacker is trying to kill you...yeah, then you would kill rather than be killed. But only if and only if. Don't just injure because you want to, Do it because you have to. catch my drift? Hurt rather than injure,Injure rather than maim,Maim rather than kill,kill rather than be killed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 thats exactly my point. if someone enters a fight with me, i assure you i wont have started it. and on the street or wherever, if im being physically assaulted, i have every reason to believe that the assailant is trying to maim/hospitalize or even kill me, and to assume anything less would be stupid. i should therefor do everything in my power to prevent that from happening, within reason, FOR SURE. for sure is the important part- people slammed on the ground can get back up and come for more, but someone slammed on the ground who was stomped on to the point where its too painful to get up cant hurt me anymore. hell, even if it is illegal, if i have to im taking my opponent out. PS ive never actually killed anyone, if that makes you feel better. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." -Machiavelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadCell Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 The first punch is 50% of the fight (if landed). It hurts the opponent physically and kills him mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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