Aikido? Ju Jitsu? What do You Think?

[Xy]

Hello All!

 

When I was about 8 I did a martial-art for a while but gave it away when we moved.

 

I'm now 18 and thinking about starting again. I was hoping for your opinions (as biased as they may be ) on each art that you've done.

 

Thanks

 

Xy.

[thaiboxerken]

I've trained in BJJ for a couple years. I find it is more realistic, since Aikido and japanese jujitusu just assume that assailants will fall into the locks.

 

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This Message was edited by: Patrick on Jun 27, 2001 11:50am

[Karateka_latino]

Yes, BJJ is more realistic for street combat.

 

to really Make Aikido work your oponent must attack you like a crazy and then you can use there own agression against him.

 

But Aikido to fight a persons who knows how to fight, well that's another story.

 

thanks

[Karateka]

I have done Kickboxing and I am now doing Shito Ryu Karate. I feel that Shito Ryu Karate is better for fighting on the street. I know people say that Kickboxing is more oriented around the street, but Karate's ancient techniques still work now. Trust me, I have saved my life with these techniques.

 

 

[Tim Greer]

Aikido is okay, I mean, I've taken some and it was okay, but I didn't take enough to make any judgements, other than I wasn't too impressed with it. It might have been the teacher though, I had no further interest in it.

 

As for an above poster's comments saying that your attacker will need to somehow fall into any locks and whatnot (in Ju Jutsu)? I don't get that. Perhaps I've studied a form of this that wasn't this style that the user mentioned? I say this, because Ju Jutsu can be quite brutal and effective. I do agree, however, that BJJ is quite good, especially for fighting a lot of untalented street thugs, so to speak... it's also a good all around style and is good to know.

 

However, I personally find a few various styles and combinations of styles more effective -- even if it does involve some BJJ or Ju Jutsu. I tend to usually mix it up a little with some Tai Jutsu (which by itself is one of the most effective, brutal arts I've ever studied), various styles of Kung Fu, maybe some Chin Na techniques. Also, wrestling is good to know, for sure. Basically, try and cover all the aspects, such as striking arts, arts that deal with locks, throws, breaks, good blocking and whatnot. Arts that deal with ground fighting are a must to add to the mix as well.

 

I'd suggest well rounded style that is a mix of many other's, but that's not going to be easy to get that information for most people. An, as I mentioned Tai Jutsu, well, it's very rare that you'll find anyone or any real school to teach that in the US or many other countries. However, there are some good arts out there. it also can depend on how able you are. Some people are seemingly better suited for other arts, or so it appears, but it's a personal choice.

 

Also, once you develop your skills, they only grow further, if you allow them to. Use what you learn for a basis and stic kto the principals and further your knowledge, talent and style to best suit you. There are many good starting points for that result, try out a few styles and see what best suits you -- you might be limited to your choices by what's offered as well. And, I hope you find a truly qualified school, because a lot of them out there simply suck.

 

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This Message was edited by: Tim Greer on Jun 29, 2001 5:20am

[thaiboxerken]

What I meant by "fall into an armlock" is that the traditional japanese styles never deal with what happens if they don't get the arm-bar or lock. They trow people down great, but the ground is something they don't deal with much at all. This is probably because they are more mass-combat oriented. In a war the ground is the last place to be since other opponents can stab you with their weapons.

 

Anyway, it seems that these styles haven't evolved to include the ground fighting.

 

Personally, I think Aikido is very outdated since people don't fight with swords anymore. They tend to train against haymaker attacks more than anything and they keep their face wide-open to attack. And for those Seagal fans.. he's just an actor and not a good fighter.

 

 

[Karateka]

Some moves may be outdated but are still useful in today's world. Being attacked by a pipe or some sort of stick is just like being attacked by a sword. When fighting someone who is just an idiot on the street, the haymaker blocks come in handy.

 

Plus, if you wanna impress your girlfriend, you can do some cool shit.

 

 

[thaiboxerken]

That may be for your average thug. But I agree that it is a good skill to learn. I personally get many of the same Techs as Aikido in Silat and Kali, just with a little different approach. The difference is that in kali and Silat, they aren't as peaceful with the responses and add many nasty finishes.

 

 

[Angus]

As most of u know i have done a lot of arts, one of which was a short stint in BJJ. I learned the basic ground fighting techniques from BJJ such as lock and lapel grab and all that, but i combine that with beating the shit outta the guy with punches if he tries to take me down.

 

I can do standup locks and wrestling but i find a dynamic approach (punches and kicks) as the best way of handling street thugs.

 

Hooroo,

 

Angus

 

 

[iamrushman]

hello XY.......all arts have there good techniques........however it is important that you find an art that come natural to you and that your comfortable with.