Muay Thai

[Drunken Monkey]

i still hold that sometimes

 

some things are wrong

 

and that opinions can be wrong.

 

i think killing small children for personal entertainment is a legitimate past time.

 

i think hilter was an ok bloke.

 

i think drinking and driving is not a bad thing.

 

i think people with i.q less than 100 should be executed.

 

these are opinions.

 

all of them are wrong.

[wing chun kuen man]

[47MartialMan]

i still hold that sometimes

 

some things are wrong

 

and that opinions can be wrong.

 

i think killing small children for personal entertainment is a legitimate past time.

 

i think hilter was an ok bloke.

 

i think drinking and driving is not a bad thing.

 

i think people with i.q less than 100 should be executed.

 

these are opinions.

 

all of them are wrong.

 

Hey, were are not talking about common social morals here, we are talking about Martial Art related subjects.

 

See the struting going on......

[Drunken Monkey]

that's strutting?

 

i was just presenting opinions that are wrong.

 

admittedly they are a little extreme but the point still holds.

 

why can't opinions be wrong?

 

opinions are based on personal beliefs and experiences and things we hold to be true/false.

 

if any one of those are flawed, the resulting opinion is also going to be flawed and in some cases, downright wrong.

 

again, in case you missed the question.

 

why can't opinions be wrong?

[47MartialMan]

Where are you from?

 

The term "struting" can mean many things.

 

Just like Chinese liguistics.

 

Actually from what I am told, it is easier to learn Chinese than English.

 

When there are two opposing opnions, does it hold that one is right or the other is wrong. Can both opnions be right, or both be wrong.

 

Your posts are refreshing indeed-sincerely....

[wing chun kuen man]

Drunken Monkey,

 

Maybe 47MartialMan is telling you that YOUR opinions can be wrong too.

 

Just a thought

 

Wing Chun Kuen Man

[Drunken Monkey]

but i have presented my opinion here

 

and you seem to be saying that i am wrong...

 

that is the only point that i am trying to make.

 

human reasoning is a flawed process.

 

it all hinges on the base as well as every step along the way to forming that opinion, being true.

 

Can both opinions be right, or both be wrong.?

 

my answer:yes.

 

again.

 

why can't opinions be wrong?

[47MartialMan]

but i have presented my opinion here

 

and you seem to be saying that i am wrong...

 

that is the only point that i am trying to make.

 

human reasoning is a flawed process.

 

it all hinges on the base as well as every step along the way to forming that opinion, being true.

 

Can both opinions be right, or both be wrong.?

 

my answer:yes.

 

again.

 

why can't opinions be wrong?

 

Good point on the first.

 

Opnions cannot be wrong because it is about individuality and belief. It is a conlcusion or belief by the individual, but not substantiated by knowledge or proof

[Drunken Monkey]

...yeah but opinions are based on supposed facts that have should've been substantiated by knowledge or proof.

 

which is again, part of my point.

 

i believe that anti-matter weapons are totally impossible to build.

 

that belief (or opinion) is based on what i have read and what i know (based on what i have learnt/been taught).

 

BUT

 

if something that i have read or been taught is found to be false, then my belief/opinion is also false as their basis is 'wrong'.

 

i.e then it means that anti-matter weapons are possible.

 

hence:

 

my original belief/opinion was wrong.

[47MartialMan]

...yeah but opinions are based on supposed facts that have should've been substantiated by knowledge or proof.

 

which is again, part of my point.

 

i believe that anti-matter weapons are totally impossible to build.

 

that belief (or opinion) is based on what i have read and what i know (based on what i have learnt/been taught).

 

BUT

 

if something that i have read or been taught is found to be false, then my belief/opinion is also false as their basis is 'wrong'.

 

i.e then it means that anti-matter weapons are possible.

 

hence:

 

my original belief/opinion was wrong.

 

Not all people opninions are based upon facts.

 

This is what I am trying to tell you..

 

It is individual beliefs.

 

If some have the opinion that the Christian bible is the only word of God,

 

his opinion is from belief and not based upon factual (proven or disproven)

 

Here is where I play a double edge sword...

 

I (per you born speaking Chinese) was born into English, opinions are not based upon facts. Look into many English dictionaries