Angus Posted December 14, 2001 Share Posted December 14, 2001 Heh, i don't like that generalisation that smaller people should do Kung Fu or Karate or Tae Kwon Do. A lot of people say it depends on the student, and i might agree and disagree with that - cos mostly i reckon it would lie with the teacher. U might have a real ass-hat teacher in one art who doesn't care what u do and then u have a full-on dude who pushes and pushes and pushes... Bah! Angus Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 I agree that things have changed as far as fighting is cncerned. I see the need for learning how to fight on he ground. WHAT IF YOU END UP THERE? THEN WHAT? My life is far too valuable to me to be closed minded. BJJ has been in my fighting arsenal since 1998...I had been studying Kenpo Karate 10 years at that point. I am now a confident fighter both on my feet, and on the ground. Hasta!! Slider 2nd Degree Black Belt Ed Parker Kenpo Karate Check out "Koldsteel" Enterprises. We offer a wide variety of aluminum samurai swords for training or competition. All of these swords are light as a feather, but look awsome. Http://hometown.aol.com/koldsteel504/myhomepage/profile.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niel0092 Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 Definately alot to think about in here. But until I get more of a base in stand up fighting I think I'll wait to crosstrain. No sense in screwing myself up by mixing styles to soon. "Jita Kyoei" Mutual Benefit and Welfare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 Ground fighting techniques are a MUST if you train in martial arts. If you get into a street confrontation, chances are that you will end up on the ground. If that happens, and the guy happens to be stronger than you are..you will be in serious trouble. The benefit of learning lock, and grapple techniques is that you can have the benefit of "leverage" in a confrontation with a stronger opponant. Look into it as soon as you can....its a benefit no matter what stage in your training. Hasta!! Slider 2nd degree black belt Kenpo Karate Check out "Koldsteel" Enterprises. We offer a wide variety of aluminum samurai swords for training or competition. All of these swords are light as a feather, but look awsome. Http://hometown.aol.com/koldsteel504/myhomepage/profile.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 It depends how much grund fighting u do at the early stage of your training. Just learn a couple of key things first and then carry on with the other stand-up style... Wait as u progress a bit more in your stand-up style and then learn a few more of the fundamentals of groundfighting. Angus Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 I suggest learning grappling and stand fighting at the same time. That way you can beacome prfiecient at both at the same time Hasta!! Slider Check out "Koldsteel" Enterprises. We offer a wide variety of aluminum samurai swords for training or competition. All of these swords are light as a feather, but look awsome. Http://hometown.aol.com/koldsteel504/myhomepage/profile.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiu-jitsu fighter Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 please don't insult groundfighting like that, there is a time and a place for everything, now you might not agree with their approach ,BUT NOONE IS FORCING YOU TO LEARN IT, and another thing bjj fighters do deserve some respect, because mostly all martial arts have adopted ground techniques after seeing the capabilities of a skilled bjj fighter , chang wuji, if you have nothing nice to say, don;t say anything at all "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,and most people don't even know how to swim" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magikchiongson Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 I'm kinda torn on this subject so I don't know where to begin. Should a Martial Artists, learn, Groundwork? Yeah Absolutely. You just don't know what situation you're going to find yourself in. Should I aim to take every single fight to the ground? Hell no, you're nuts if you attempt this in any violent encounter, other than a one on one with an unarmed opponent. There's basically two types of people I absolutely cannot stand, people who churn out blackbelts by the thousands in these McDojo factories, and these "grapplers" who claim that their art is the best and is for real, because they beat up a blackbelt from one of these McDojo factories, at a controlled sporting event.... To me, Mcdojos and chest thumping grapplers are all the same, and I dislike them for the same exact reasons. I tell my niece who is in TKD you try that stupid manuever In REal Life, you're gonna get killed, and I tell my cousin who is in BJJ if you try that in real life your opponents friends are gonna come up and kick you on the head. I own you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaiFightsMS Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Please keep the discussion civil. Attacking viewpoints of other members is really not welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiu-jitsu fighter Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 magic chiong son , please do not stereotype like that please, im a pro bjj er and i surely don't believe all fights should go to the groung, i study muay thai and western boxing to incorporate into my bjj stand up game don't stereotype "chest thumping grapplers" , i haven't yet seen one of those guys in my bjj class "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,and most people don't even know how to swim" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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