shotochem Posted August 3, 2004 Posted August 3, 2004 I wish I had a dollar for everytime a person went into that damned karate kid crane stance or gave me the bruce lee war cry...... In danger of flagellating a deceased equine..........., Be smart be discrete. Do not make an obvious spectacle of yourself. I find it to be advantageous that a would be attacker would not know that I practice MA. Why give up the element of surprise if attacked. Advertisement is asking for trouble and poor street tactics. If they have a knife, bat or worse at a greenbelt or even if you were a BB with 20yrs experience. The odds are not in your favor. Overconfidence and reckless behavior will get you killed. Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime.
Vito Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 change your clothes, pack heat, get a ride, walk in greater numbers, get good at running, call the police (lie about threats if you have to, but dont let the gangsters know you called at all costs.) and luckys right- a groin hit does not mean someone is out of a fight, despite the myths. it hurts like hell, but if i get hit there im giong to be so mad ill push through the pain, and on adrenalyn, chase you down and kill you. just so you know. (unless its lucky, with his credentials he can kick my *.) "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." -Machiavelli
The Saint Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 Here's one, if they get up in your face ask them to take a class. Educating people to new things is extremely difficult. People often pick at things that they are ignorant to (not knowing). People often take the cheesey "karte kid" theme and asume all martial arts are like that. Don't go looking for trouble, or trouble will find you. If you can't educate this bunch of people avoid the conflict by changing cloths or doing anything to avoid trouble. "Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to go to his class." Choi, Hong Hi ITF Founder
Coco Posted August 7, 2004 Author Posted August 7, 2004 Err.. well yeah i finally got into a fight... what happened? Seems like they were moving(they are all related) and they wanted to woop my * before they left... So im walking alone(my bro didnt go to karate with me) and then this kid aproaches me and goes like, where u goin, b*tch? he grabs me and i suddenly stop... i knew this was trouble.. so the stands right in front of me, and tries to pushme backwards with both hards, at that point i reacted and blocked both hands to the sides, then pushed him back, out of pure reaction and i accidentally pushed him a lil too hard... then 2 other kids came, and helped him up. This other kid whos about 5'4 (im, 5'6-5'7) slaps me and i got really really pissed off so im like " What the f*ck? " and i punch him right in the nose, then this other kid i pushed comes and pushes me, then i kick his his thigh(i think it impacted his kneecap cause he couldnt stand up) and while he is down i front kicked the other last kid into a garbage can before he could do anything, then i ran like hell... Thanks for all the advice, now they moved off, (not before toilet papering my whole yard and egging my windows) and i dont think theyll ever be back, now they know whats waiting for them. Oh and as for the other little kids it seems they were the gangster kid's brothers or something cause they were packing boxes into the truck at the moment of the fight but were too busy to notice. Shito Ryu (3rd kyu) RETIRED - 2002-2003Now studying BJJ(2006)
ramymensa Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Glad you're OK, Coco and that the guys are off. But still, pleasa considerr changing clothes before going home .. you wouldn't get into troubles that easy World Shotokan Karate
Coco Posted August 7, 2004 Author Posted August 7, 2004 Yeah that was a real wake up call, ill start chaning from now on. Shito Ryu (3rd kyu) RETIRED - 2002-2003Now studying BJJ(2006)
Jerry Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Coco - kiddo, you did good! Sooner or later, taking your area into mind, you would have had to face the other guys. Yes, everyone has said that you should not wear your gi and I tend to agree. I never wear my belt outside my dojo, nor my gi top. I wear my pants though and a t shirt and jacket. I drive in my car to my dojo, but still wish not to attract attention as there is always a drunk or two who loves showing the tough guys a tough time. One thing I however do not agree with ... sorry guy, personal opinion here .... is that you should run away every time some pushes you around. That is what they want you to do. They want you to show them that you are a sissy .... Well, that is b/s. At my dojo, we focus on self defence as well, which include street fighting to a great extend. I love fighting 2 or 3 guys at a time. Surprise is on my side. Remember that the best defence is offence. If you see it coming, attack! Don't give them time to push you around. Let them surround you, take note of their positions and tackle the first guy, disable immediately if possible and attack the next, but no more than 5 to 7 blows per "victim". When you attack the first one, he will be so surprised that he will only notice what is going on after you started beating him again. One thing though .... gangsters carry knifes, maybe even guns. That is why you do not want to spend time fighting. It's survival of the fittest, always remember that buddy. It's a pity that Karate instructors are only focused on competetions and not everyday survival. That is why I went over to kickboxing, where we devote one evening per week for self defence. It's an extra class, but surely worth it. If you intend standing your ground to more than 3 people at any one given time, I would suggest you considder carying a weapon of some sort yourself. Nunchaka (spelling?) tens to work, scares the crap out of people too, but I would really think twice about being that brave. I never needed to fight more that 3 guys and therefore try to steer clear. But as for school fights, hit the bullies with a stick if you have to, keeping in mind that they might want to fight you again, but eventually they'll let you be. Pain goes away and I ended up not being bullied anymore. You earn respect by standing your ground. Damn, I don't even talk this much to my friends here locally .... If you have some who yeall out that he will whoop your a$$, just smile at the person, they hardly go over to action. Never return a comment, make eye contact, briefly and smile at the person, and be off on your way. Trust me on this one. Should you be approached, well, like mentioned before, be quick or be dead. And keep in mind that I have been a kickboxer since 1993, so don't just run out and think that you will kick butt. Focus and train. Well, enough said. Good luck. "You do not truly know someone until you fight him." - Seraph"To be the best, you must be the best." - Me
torris Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 If you are a block away from the dojo, what about riding home with someone. I don't know about your dojo, but our is family, and anyone of us would go out of our way to help one another. As I said, I don't know your dojo, but it wasn't mentioned.
Rich_2k3 Posted August 26, 2004 Posted August 26, 2004 Err.. well yeah i finally got into a fight... what happened? Seems like they were moving(they are all related) and they wanted to woop my * before they left... So im walking alone(my bro didnt go to karate with me) and then this kid aproaches me and goes like, where u goin, b*tch? he grabs me and i suddenly stop... i knew this was trouble.. so the stands right in front of me, and tries to pushme backwards with both hards, at that point i reacted and blocked both hands to the sides, then pushed him back, out of pure reaction and i accidentally pushed him a lil too hard... then 2 other kids came, and helped him up. This other kid whos about 5'4 (im, 5'6-5'7) slaps me and i got really really * off so im like " What the f*ck? " and i punch him right in the nose, then this other kid i pushed comes and pushes me, then i kick his his thigh(i think it impacted his kneecap cause he couldnt stand up) and while he is down i front kicked the other last kid into a garbage can before he could do anything, then i ran like hell... Thanks for all the advice, now they moved off, (not before toilet papering my whole yard and egging my windows) and i dont think theyll ever be back, now they know whats waiting for them. Oh and as for the other little kids it seems they were the gangster kid's brothers or something cause they were packing boxes into the truck at the moment of the fight but were too busy to notice. I'm sorry coco but i'd dont believe that. U said u've only got a year of experience, but u still kicked the * out of 3 guys at once. I've been in a few fights and i've seen a few, and we all know that it aint that easy, its fast, unpredictable and bloody. I mean let me get this straight, the guy u hit in the face was taken out straight away and didnt even hit back, he simply stood there and watched u kick the other guy in the thigh, who just stood there and watched u kick the other guy into a bin. All were one hitters. I think it was the front kick into a garbage can that did it, soz but ur gonna have to do better than that "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee
47MartialMan Posted August 29, 2004 Posted August 29, 2004 I have to agree with some of the other points... I can't stand to see people walking around in their uniforms after class especially in stores/public and they not expecting to not be ridiculed. Meaning no offense to these people personally, it is to point out that you might as well put a sign on your back and say, "Laugh at Me". Or you might as well walk around with a big red top hat. It is all advertising and "asking" for despair. Also, you were lucky to get TP and eggs, and it may not end there. They have the advantage in knowing where you are and what you do. It should not be this way.
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