Quick q' concernin Judo/BJJ

[JohnnyS]

The reason I say that Judo will give bad habits on the ground is that a lot of Judo instructors teach to turtle up, or go straight to kesa-katame. Giving up the back is a bad idea in BJJ because the ref isn't going to stand you up for lack of progress.

 

I definately agree with doing both though, as most BJJ classes don't spend much time at all on throws.

[TJS]

Is there a diffrence in Kesa-Gatame and Kesa-Katame?

 

I have been able to use quite a wide array of attacks from kesa gatame with a good amount of sucess. and long as you know the escapes and reversals to watch out for you have the arm bar/shoulder lock/arm triangle, reverse leg triangle, etc.

 

Althought I havent rolled with many people above purple so I do have limited experience.

[shanemm]

wrestling is also good for learning to get a good base on the ground, however the standup part of wrestling is easily beaten by any experienced judoka.

[JohnnyS]

The problem is that I've found Judo guys try to pass the guard and go straight for kesa-katame and in the process give up their back. It's not a bad position, but he chance of sucessfully submitting someone from there who is good (i.e. purple or above) is slight, and the chance of giving your back up is high.