JohnnyS Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 The reason I say that Judo will give bad habits on the ground is that a lot of Judo instructors teach to turtle up, or go straight to kesa-katame. Giving up the back is a bad idea in BJJ because the ref isn't going to stand you up for lack of progress. I definately agree with doing both though, as most BJJ classes don't spend much time at all on throws. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Is there a diffrence in Kesa-Gatame and Kesa-Katame? I have been able to use quite a wide array of attacks from kesa gatame with a good amount of sucess. and long as you know the escapes and reversals to watch out for you have the arm bar/shoulder lock/arm triangle, reverse leg triangle, etc. Althought I havent rolled with many people above purple so I do have limited experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanemm Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 wrestling is also good for learning to get a good base on the ground, however the standup part of wrestling is easily beaten by any experienced judoka. There are two types of people in the world. Those that find excuses and those that find a way.-Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 The problem is that I've found Judo guys try to pass the guard and go straight for kesa-katame and in the process give up their back. It's not a bad position, but he chance of sucessfully submitting someone from there who is good (i.e. purple or above) is slight, and the chance of giving your back up is high. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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