CapitalKarate Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Hey all. I've recently decided that I'm no longer going to take karate as it doesn't work well in real life. My brother is still going to take it and hes going to teach be best he can some of the stuff he learns, but, I want to take a MA that I can effectively use to defend myself. I have three options (that I know of) for this area. (and if anyone here knows any really good schools here that I don't mention, PLEASE tell me). Theres a Sayockali school which I'm going to take no matter what at some point in time, but I don't know if they teach you how to fight w/o a knife or weapon effectively. Theres a couple BJJ schools round here. And theres a Chinese school that teaches tai chi, kung fu (don't know which type), wu shu, grappling. It seems like a good school but I don't know how to tell how good it is. Here's the site.. https://www.cmai-va.com. If someone knowledgeable could look at this site and tell me if its good or not, I'd be very thankful. And again, if anyone knows of a good school (i don't want to take TKD or karate) please tell me about it! thanks Josh Joshua Brehm-When you're not practicing remember this; someone, somewhere, is practicing, and when you meet them, they will beat you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akima Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 May I ask why you find Karate not practicle? I ask because I find most katate schools tend to find a good balnce between art and practicle. Chinnese styles tend to be really good. But I notice that like Aikido, it takes a very long time for student to learn the practicle appliactions. BJJ is good, but recently I have had conversation regarding one flaw in it's philosphy. "all fights go to ground". I am not saying this isn't true more often than not, but there is an inherant advantage to taking someone to the ground without going down with them. If you're really into ground fighting, check out Judo. Check this place out too. http://www.onespiritmartialarts.com/ I haven't heard anything bad about them. They teach several different arts, including Judo, BJJ, and MMA fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravencroft Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Sayoc Kali all the way. haha thats just my biased opinion because it is arguably my favorite and i would kill to have a school like that near me. but they do teach you to fight unarmed. it just goes backwards. it goes into 3 different phases, stick and edged weapon fighting, then they show you how to apply it to unarmed combat. it is highly effective as they teach it to the Special forces of our military. i would seriously consider that one if the school is good. but just because i say that do not count the other ones out. if they are good schools consider them to because it sounds like the chinese one has a lot to offer in terms of art and combat and BJJ is just a good combative form altogether so look at te scools one by one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 ..hang on.... your details list shorin-ryu.... and you say you don't find it 'doesn't work'? this doesn't sound right.... i thought of all the karate styles, shorin-ryu was one of the styles to learn... i mean, here at least, they're hard to come by and standards are very, very high. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 karate doesn't work in real life? Sounds like you've been brainwashed by the ufc society to me....to each his own. Tell that to the people who've been maimed or killed from karate!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 You're taking Shorinryu, and you feel it won't work in a real fight? Well, I don't know who your sensei is in it, or what he's teaching you of course, but believe me...if you're REALLY learning true Shorinryu...take my word for it...it works, and it works VERY well against one, or multiple attackers. Personally, I've been involved in Shorinryu for nearly 30 years and have to use what it has taught me on numerous occassions, including about 2 weeks ago. It hasn't failed me yet (not even faltered a bit), nor do I think that it ever will. Does your Shorinryu sensei have a website that I can take a look at and possibly see what he's doing? Like any dojo, there are good sensei, and not so good sensei. Not that I am calling yours not so good, but it's possible that his training may be lacking in some areas. What are you learning, or not learning, that you don't think will work in a real confrontation? How long have you been involved in it? My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalKarate Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 I'm just a yellow belt right now, so what he's taught me is, the front kick at different hieghts, side kick, roundhouse kick, cresent kick, back kick, spinning back kick, 6 types of elbow strikes, 3 shuto strikes (open hand blade, chopping action), back fist, different types of punches, we do lots of kata, and lots of one steps (2 people stand there, and person1 punches at person2, person2 performs certain blocks/strikes that the sensei has taught to quickly stop the fight, i know 6 so far), we spar a bit, not that much tho, and we do a bit of kumite (two people doing different katas, but against each other), we've learned some joint locks, and breaks in the one steps, and my sensei loves to make us do lots of push ups and sit ups. thats what i've learned so far at yellow belt. do you guys think i should just stick with this art if nothing else to get a good foundation for other arts i plan on taking? (i want to eventually take muay thai, sayockali, bjj or combat ju jitsu) Joshua Brehm-When you're not practicing remember this; someone, somewhere, is practicing, and when you meet them, they will beat you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aefibird Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Well, as you're still fairly much a beginner I'd stick with Shorin Ryu for now. It is an excelent style and, even if you switch to another MA, the training that you've done in it will stand you in good stead for your next MA. Karate is an excellent and realistic form of street self-defence (despite what some people say about it ). Even if you switch to another style you will still have to spend several months or even a couple of years learning the basics before moving onto more complicated stuff. You might as well stick with what you know and get a good foundation in Shorin Ryu before deciding on moving to another style. Another option would be to continue your Shorin Ryu training and cross-train in another martial art at the same time. If you're determined to start another MA, then this might be the best route for you. Then you'll not be 'throwing away' your SR training and you'll be learning another MA as well. "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akima Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 If you're only a yellow belt, you haven't given the art much of a chance. Any martial art is going to take some time to become proficent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 ...so who told you that karate doesn't work in real life? how long have you been training in shorin ryu? why do you want to muay thai, sayockali, bjj or combat ju jitsu? (why them specifically?) and if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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