Kickchop19 Posted July 23, 2004 Posted July 23, 2004 how do these 2 styles compare.which is for streetfighting and self defense?
SBN Doug Posted July 23, 2004 Posted July 23, 2004 Had to modify your post slightly. "Which is better" discussions aren't permitted. Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
granmasterchen Posted July 23, 2004 Posted July 23, 2004 Kajukenbo was designed in the 50s for the sole purpose of defending ones self on the violent streets of Hawaii at the time (it used to be a violent place), The art teaches very violent moves meant to seriously hurt someone making it ideal for street fights or self defense. Certain common moves taught include tearing out the throat, eye gouges, breaking the knees, and so forth, many moves that can seriously maim or kill a person. Muay Thai is a martial art that has a lot of focus on power and taking punishment and then dishing it right back, this art places great focus on elbows, punches, low and high kicks, knees and head butts. As violent as these moves are, they are more for beating the snot out of your opponent rather than seriously hurting them for LIFE. Muay Thai is very powerful, dont get me wrong and one can easily place someone in the hospital, but the focus of the two arts "generally" differ in the aspect that one is made to fight and beat your opponent while the other is to serious harm or kill the opponent. That which does not destroy me will only make me stronger
Fat Donkey Posted July 23, 2004 Posted July 23, 2004 That was a great post granmasterchen! As an MT guy I could not of said it better myself. To reiterate a point I've made on a lot of posts I prefer MT because it increases the chances of me winning a fight without killing or hospitalizing my opponent. I'm taking Krav Maga now where the emphasis seems to destroy your opponent by any means necessary. Some of the moves scare me as the damage they would cause would probably land me in jail (justified or not, thats Canada for u). It sounds like Kajenbuko is similar. The thing I also loved about MT is dealing with pain. Only hard contact can teach u to deal with it. Is there hard sparring in Kajenbuko?? Donkey
granmasterchen Posted July 23, 2004 Posted July 23, 2004 from what i have seen kajukenbo only participates in their own kajukenbo tournaments in hawaii that are point based....so from what i have seen no full contact at all....and defintely nothing like muay thai, that is an art of taking the pain, gotta respect that! That which does not destroy me will only make me stronger
Blade3 Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 Kajukenbo is widely practiced in CA, I know Grand Master Rick Kingi in LA who has his own tourenys in LA & a major one up in Vegas every summer. I haveb a great deal of respect for him & the style, his students do well in tourneys & in the streets. One of my best freinds trains there, when he was a blue belt him & I were bouncers at a club in West LA & I saw him nearly tear a guy's arm off in a confrontation at the door. Kajukenbo is an awesome style.
pineapple Posted February 26, 2005 Posted February 26, 2005 Kajukenbo is often nicknamed in the media, "the art of dirty street fighting". It was designed for the street and (sorry) it was tested on the street. The founder of the system said that he was not satisfied with the training untill he saw blood on the floor. Kajukenbo is not practiced in the old bloody ways but the techniques remain. As much as I love the art of Kajukenbo, I must say that I wouldn't want to jump in the ring with a good MT fighter. Long ago, fighters from different countries went to Thailand to fight in the ring with them and the MT fighters defeated all comers. Like all good arts, when you have something good, others will study what you do and copy them so the Thailand fighters are not as dominant as they once were. MT fighters are tough and they have my respect. What works works
kzshin Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 they are more for beating the snot out of your opponent rather than seriously hurting them for LIFE. Muay Thai is very powerful, dont get me wrong and one can easily place someone in the hospital, but the focus of the two arts "generally" differ in the aspect that one is made to fight and beat your opponent while the other is to serious harm or kill the opponent. I some how disagree with this. Let's not forget, Muay Thai was originally used in military since anciet Thai, and was evolved in years to kill enemy effectiviely. However, like many other arts, due to the sport aspect, what people usually see in the tournament or has been taught are usually the softer side of the art. The only art that I will think that focusing mainly in hurting instead of kill, will most likely be Shaio Ling Boxing, cuz monks aren't suppose to kill.
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