karatekaBR86 Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Can sai trap swords? With the use of the other two prongs? Just curious
Ravencroft Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 actuall i believe thats what it was originally intended for...the old shinobi used a sai to trap and wear down swords. great tool if u ask me.
steveb Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 Can sai trap swords? With the use of the other two prongs? Just curious Our sai form "Odo Matayoshi" includes a sword trap. The action is a overhead strike from the sword which is caught by an X block with the sai. You then slide the two sai together catching the blade in the prongs and pull them both down and to the side. Res firma, mitescere nescit
SaiFightsMS Posted July 23, 2004 Posted July 23, 2004 We do a similar move in Tsukenshitahaku no sai.
Sauzin Posted July 23, 2004 Posted July 23, 2004 Sai's can trap swords, just not well. Sais were originally designed to trap staffs. This is why the curve of their prongs is so wide. The thin blade of a sword is harder to to trap with a sai. The Jitte was actually developed for trapping and snapping swords. It is usually made with only one prong, with a much narrower curve. The only two things that stand between an effective art and one that isn't are a tradition to draw knowledge from and the mind to practice it.
Vito Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 yea- but only if youre reeeeally good. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." -Machiavelli
Shorin Ryuu Posted August 9, 2004 Posted August 9, 2004 They were made to trap weapons (thus if you hold in like in Daredevil your fingers get hurt or cut off). It was always a police/guard weapon in my opinion, most likely imported from China. Metal was too expensive for it to be a common farming tool... Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
Disciple Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Actually, it makes sense for sais to be made of metal. Usually carts had some kind of piece that bound a front and backcart piece together, which had to be stronger than the cart, which was wood. a good sai technique? open it to parry a thrust and then jab it into their arm.
Shorin Ryuu Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I wasn't saying that it didn't make sense for them to be made out of iron, I'm just saying that if they were too expensive to be common everyday implements. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
Disciple Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I don't think that is an issue, I mean, jsut b/c it was metal does mean it was expensive. They had metal, they weren't in the stone age.
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