torris Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 Once again, as I stated before, it does seem that each style has its own biased opinion towards itself. While each style has it's own distinct attributes, I really don't believe that one is any less useable than the other. TKD emphasizes kicks, that does not make it ineffective. There are many greats that come from TKD. Chuck Norris, Allen Steen, Jhoon Rhey. Are they Bruce Lee? Certainly not. But I expect that any one of you would certainly think twice before facing them. TV aside, I have seen Chuck Norris fight, and he is very, very good. Every style is great in its own rite. Each style, when used properly, can be very effective in self defense. That is the rest of the story.....
battousai16 Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 well, i don't know allen steen, but Chuck Norris is Tang Soo Do and isn't Jhoon Rhee considered a sell out? or am i thinking of someone else? "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Radok Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 Chuck Norris was the first non-Korean to earn an 8 dan in Taekwondo, wasn't he? If you can't laugh at yourself, there's no point. No point in what, you might ask? there's just no point.Many people seem to take Karate to get a Black Belt, rather than getting a Black Belt to learn Karate.
manuelito Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 radok 1997 chuck norris was first non-korean to recieve 8th dan in tkd in the western hemisphere. however, i do not know from which federation or orginization. pain is weakness leaving the body.fear is the mind killer, i will face my fear and let it pass threw me. from the movie "dune"i know kung fu...show me. from the movie "the matrix"
asynk Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 radok 1997 chuck norris was first non-korean to recieve 8th dan in tkd in the western hemisphere. however, i do not know from which federation or orginization. Hes an ITF master: http://www.itf-online.com/masters.htm Also, more info http://www.koreanhapkido.com/norris.htm http://www.nav.cc.tx.us/staff_pages/dana/martial/chuck.htm
47MartialMan Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 TKD is actually a derivitive of shotokan karate. I have studied both (TKD) first and it is quite easy to see this. Yes, I had come to almost believe that. Some of their katas (TKD) closely resemble Jpanese Karate. However, tkd was adapted for the situation of its practitioners, ie, they were attacked by soldiers on horses, so they included a lot of high kicking to combat them. I don't agree. High kicking was for show. To get more people to join. There are a few kicks in shotokan, however, if you look at the kata's and the majority of the ipon kumite, bunkai and kihon. its is more like 75 /25 not 50/50. Those kicks (Shotokan-other Karate) have a more defensive position. No high/spinning flashiness. If it is at all possible. do both. if you find that you enjoy one more than the other, stick with it. if not, theres no harm in doing more than one style. Agreed. But I would do TKD first, then the other (or another)
CloudDragon Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 radok, sorry, but he wasn't the first non-korean in the western hemisphers to be an 8th degree. Masters Robert Allemier and William G. Clark were there in 1990. http://www.ataonline.com/about/leadership/masterscouncil.asp A Black Belt is just a white belt that don't know when to quit!
47MartialMan Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 I though Norris achieved status pre 70's?
Little Dragon Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 -.-...you guys make me feel like ive been wasting my money on tkd,haha nah im jp..im proud to be learning it.I guess its becuase my school is a lot different from other tkd schools. My school has only a Grandmaster who is basically the only instructor,there is no lower master than him that teaches...unless he wants a BB to lead the class sometimes.He is around his early 60's,born and raised in korea...he learned tkd,hapkido,and kendo..tkd was his main favorite style.In our classes on mon-wen nights we practice our grapplings and we call em ''self-defenses''..cuz grandmaster cant speak english to well.And there are certain ones that lower belts to higher belts learn everytime they advance in belt.Ive noticed that after or when you reach BB,you start learning hapkido instead of just arm locks and whutnot,grandmaster even said it was hapkido.But the thing about my grandmaster is,he'll only teach how to use weaponary to koreans or people who he thinks has potential. ''I know what your thinking.........did I shoot you 3 times? or did I shoot you 472 times?''
47MartialMan Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 -.-...you guys make me feel like ive been wasting my money on tkd,haha nah im jp..im proud to be learning it.I guess its becuase my school is a lot different from other tkd schools. My school has only a Grandmaster who is basically the only instructor,there is no lower master than him that teaches...unless he wants a BB to lead the class sometimes.He is around his early 60's,born and raised in korea...he learned tkd,hapkido,and kendo..tkd was his main favorite style.In our classes on mon-wen nights we practice our grapplings and we call em ''self-defenses''..cuz grandmaster cant speak english to well.And there are certain ones that lower belts to higher belts learn everytime they advance in belt.Ive noticed that after or when you reach BB,you start learning hapkido instead of just arm locks and whutnot,grandmaster even said it was hapkido.But the thing about my grandmaster is,he'll only teach how to use weaponary to koreans or people who he thinks has potential. What is your Grandmaster's name/lineage and does ot belong to a TJD organization? Also, is he certified by the Kukiwon (if I spelled this correctly)?
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