White Warlock Posted June 29, 2004 Posted June 29, 2004 Yes, the myth goes that if you hit hard enough, bone fragments of the nose can be thrust into the brain. Two problems with this myth are that the nose is mainly comprised of 'cartilage,' not bone. The second is that, as SS stated, there is no direct pathway to the brain from the nasal cavity. The skull still blocks the way, and we're talking a good 1/4" of bone, curved to be more resilient to impact. It is far more likely that you could cause a concussive effect severe enough to damage the brain. But, such could be effected via a strike to almost any part of the skull (with the chin and back of the head seemingly being more susceptible). Movies are great though, eh? "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
Shorinryu Sensei Posted June 30, 2004 Posted June 30, 2004 And yet, I still see martial arts instructors telling their students that it is possible to kill someone that way...just like in the movies. This, and other things they teach their students makes it very difficult for me to sit idly by while hearing this, without saying something. The same thing happens on thsi forum sometimes. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!"
muaythaifreak Posted June 30, 2004 Posted June 30, 2004 I don't know of any guaranteed one hit kill strikes. Some would disagree as in dim mak, but I've never seen that take place either. Your best bet is to forget about killing someone with one blow. The odds are stacked against you pulling one off. Of course any strike to the head, throat, or chest cavity, with enough force can kill someone. But you are talking about a tremendous amount of force. I know a guy that got hit in the back of the head full force with a baseball bat and although it did do a lot of damage, he is fine today. Think about it, the impact of a car striking a body at thirty or forty miles per hour does not always kill the person being struck. The human body is very resiliant and can take a lot of damage. Stick with the combo's. Pain is temporary, glory is forever, and chicks dig scars!-=pain is weakness leaving the body=-If there's lead in the air, there is hope in the heart!
White Warlock Posted June 30, 2004 Posted June 30, 2004 And on that note, in 1983 I was struck by a car going over 75mph, dragged 40 yards, and then run over. I woke up 3.5 hours later in the hospital. I left the hospital 24 hours later, a concussion, torn ligaments and bruised muscles. Nothing broken. The car that hit me didn't fare so well. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
aefibird Posted June 30, 2004 Posted June 30, 2004 The human body is very resiliant and can take a lot of damage. As Warlock has demonstrated! Wow, WW that's an impressive amount of resilliancy. (is that a real word or just one I made up?? ) In a fight I'd suggest trying to strike the eyes, nose, throat, groin - basically any vulnerable spot that will cause your opponent maximum pain and give you a possible chance of escape or a chance of landing other blows. "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers!
Rich67 Posted July 1, 2004 Posted July 1, 2004 Nose: causes watering of the eyes and is a good distraction. Breaking it can cause a large flow of blood which gives a good negative psychological reaction. It hurts and it's effective. Groin: I need not say any more. Eyes (around eyes and sockets): Typical area that is struck, can cause vision disruption. Throat: Deadly force. If it comes done to life and death, this is the spot. Crushing someone's larynx can really ruin their day. I have doubts about the "forcing the nose into the brain" thinking. As others have said, the only way you could possibly kill someone like that would be if their head was immobilized and not able to move back with the blow, and the blow would have to be VERY hard. I wonder if this is an "old wives tale", but I sure wouldn't want to test it out. Knocking someone in the nose or heel palming someone in the nose is pretty nasty in and of itself. That's my favorite target. Mixed Martial Artist
White Warlock Posted July 1, 2004 Posted July 1, 2004 Wow, WW that's an impressive amount of resilliancyYeah, i'm a stud. lol Seriously though, i've been plagued by muscle, back and joint problems ever since, so resilient maybe... superhuman, clearly not. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
delta1 Posted July 2, 2004 Posted July 2, 2004 I agree with most of what is written here, except that WW is not a stud! For the record: You aren't going to drive his nose into his brain. Reliable one strike kills are highly improbable, even for advanced martial artists. You should train to instinctively go for the vulnerable targets with the correct weapon, and then hit what's open. Pretty simple, even for a Kenpoka! Freedom isn't free!
GhostFighter Posted July 4, 2004 Author Posted July 4, 2004 Ive heard from an ex-boxer that when u uppercut someone under the chin the fight will instantly be over. I dont know if this is true or that your hand can break when you hit it there because i doubt it. Everyday is a fight
Luckykboxer Posted July 4, 2004 Posted July 4, 2004 this reminds me of an Ed Parker quote.. I may have a coupel words off but its basically this.. When Pure Knuckles meet Pure Flesh you have Pure Kenpo.
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