ckcko2004 Posted June 28, 2004 Posted June 28, 2004 To delta 1, as a retired NYC PO with 20yrs service, just be advised if you kick someone in the head with steel toed COMBAT BOOTS and depending on the circumstance" IE he came at you with a knife,beer bottle,sword ETC", if he dies from his wounds you will be charged with Criminal Negligent Homicide. Your talking at least 8yrs in prison. We had a guy kick someone in the head with steel toed combat boots and served 5yrs in prison due to one guy bumping into the other guy on the street. NO OTHER WEAPONS WERE INVOLVED. I also know of some of my own fellow students who walk around with mouth pieces in there pockets just in case. If your looking for a fight it will find you eventually. I myself would come in early one hour a week with only the most senior students to practice full contact fighting with Head gear with face shield, Vale Tudo Gloves, Chest protection, shin guard protection and of course groin protection. We went at it full power practicing stand up fighting and grapping including shooting for the opponent and taking him down hard. You did get busted up but you did learn a lot on how to block a fist coming at you at full speed. Yes I did get hurt sometimes.
delta1 Posted June 29, 2004 Posted June 29, 2004 To delta 1, as a retired NYC PO with 20yrs service, just be advised if you kick someone in the head with steel toed COMBAT BOOTS and depending on the circumstance" IE he came at you with a knife,beer bottle,sword ETC", if he dies from his wounds you will be charged with Criminal Negligent Homicide. Your talking at least 8yrs in prison. Hey, good to have some experience on the board here! I agree about useing steel toes on someones head being a good way to run afoul of the law. That is deadly force, and you'd better be able to justify useing it if you do. I train in them because I wear steel toed boots and shoes regularly. I don't look for trouble, but if it were to find me there's a good chance I'd be shod heavy. And I'm not a high kicker, but they'll get your attention with the low shots!I also know of some of my own fellow students who walk around with mouth pieces in there pockets just in case. If your looking for a fight it will find you eventually. I myself would come in early one hour a week with only the most senior students to practice full contact fighting with Head gear with face shield, Vale Tudo Gloves, Chest protection, shin guard protection and of course groin protection. We went at it full power practicing stand up fighting and grapping including shooting for the opponent and taking him down hard. You did get busted up but you did learn a lot on how to block a fist coming at you at full speed. Yes I did get hurt sometimes. Sounds like fun, and carrying the mouth piece is a good idea. I once had an impromptu sparing session- no protection of any kind- after spending the better part of the morning in the dentists chair. I spent the better part of the late afternoon back in the chair with my mouth proped open, listening to a lecture from my dentist about my lack of judgement and common sense! I used to do full contact stick fighting, ground option, with a bunch of crazy Kali guys. That is another experience that can humble you quick. If you havn't tried it, you should. Puts a whole new perspective on your weapons training! And for pure fun, I'd have to give the FMA's top marks. Any way, welcome aboard! Hope to hear more from your perspective as an officer. Freedom isn't free!
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