Drunken_Apprentice Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Hi all ... Anyone have some experience with budo taijutsu? I've done some reading on it but I can't seem to get as much info as I'd like, so any help would be appreciated (links, stories, comparisons to other arts, etc). I know this may have been covered in other threads, so pointing me there is fine. Thanks!! Drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 You need to talk to Treebranch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granmasterchen Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 ninpo budo taijutsu a japanese art that has survived the centuries (900yrs) and involves the classic ninja, stephen hayes, hatsumi sensei, robert fraser are some examples of the great masters of the art. after you reach tenth degree there are five more degrees after that to represent each element, the fifth being the VOID, the teachings are from the classical 9 ninja scrolls (densho), the style as taught here in japan at my base in in tokyo by hatsumi sensei and fraser sensei is as follows kihon happo- 8 historic basic combat movements kata/henka- historic models of movements derived from actual combat jissen teki- fighting skills using practical body positioning for safety goshin jutsu- self defense skills ningu- weapons training including long and short staffs, knives, swords, chain and rope along with others these five areas are taught with emphasis on taijutsu(ninja 's body arts) taijutsu consists of: taihenjutsu- skills of escaping harm, such as footwork, body shifting, breakfalls, jumping, rolling and diving dakentajutsu- offensive and defensive parrying, punching, striking and kicking skills jutaijutsu- grappling skills to include locks, holds, chokes, throws and counters to any of the above...... let me know if i can help more That which does not destroy me will only make me stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 the term taijutsu doesn't necessarily refer to ninja. taijutsu translates to "body arts" and back in the day was used synonymously with the term jujutsu. It was just a generic term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granmasterchen Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 i apologize for how i wrote that...i was going off of a brochure from the instructor here on the base and i was trying to simplify it and apparently i did make some mistakes while thinking ...my mind got ahead of my fingers....sorry for the mistakes....i hope that the gist of the style was interpretted well.....again my apologies That which does not destroy me will only make me stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken_Apprentice Posted June 20, 2004 Author Share Posted June 20, 2004 Sorry folks, I was away for the week. Yeah, maybe I should talk to Treebranch ... I know there are a few people here who know the system and have spoken about it on this forum. How is training usually done? Are there forms or is it more free flowing to involve sparring and real-life encounter situations? Is the grappling limited to any particular range or does it involve stand-up and ground work? Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeinwolf Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Well, I train in it...though not exclusively. Anyhow, there are forms. They are mainly used to get your body used to the stance work and proper body mechanics. As far as sparring goes, we do this in my class. At first it is very controlled, but later on you begin to go into free-response sparring. The grappling is great in my opinion. We work from all ranges. Stand-up striking/grappling, throws and takedowns, and intense groundwork. I should note that at my dojo we focused a great deal on takedowns before we got into a whole lot of groundwork, but it is there. Over-all review: Very well-rounded martial art. While I dislike some of their methods, I would still say that it is a good MA for those who want to learn to defend themselves. SiK---Joshua There are no limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Taijutsu as a generic term refers to body skills, and was often used as synonym to jujutsu and other similar terms, referring to the unarmed methods of several styles (including aikido!). Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu is a modern style of grandmaster Masaaki Hatsumi, who founded it on nine traditional fighting systems of Japan. Most of these systems are "just" samurai arts, similar to other traditional jujutsu systems. Some of the styles also included shinobijutsu - the methods of the ninja. Hence much was made about the ninjutsu aspect of Bujinkan in the early years of 70's and 80's for advertising purposes. Later the name was changed from ninjutsu to taijutsu, because that is more accurate as per what the curriculum is composed of. If you study Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu, the average class is quite identical to any traditional (not modern!) jujutsu systems. You'll have to study years until you even hear of the first ninjutsu type techniques, which quite frankly aren't that applicable in basic self defence scenarios. The ninjutsu methods include ways of scaling medieval castle walls, picking ancient locks, etc. Although one can easily assume that the old ninja tactics have a lot to offer in terms of ideas as per how to defende oneself more effectively in the modern world too. Fact is, many people who claim to teach "ninjutsu" have actually very little knowledge of actual ninjutsu, and they are just teaching the jujutsu tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken_Apprentice Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 Thanks to all who posted here ... I appreciate the info. People have told me this a million times before: I have to visit the places that offer these arts I'm interested in .. only then can I get the right idea of what they're like. Even if I read up on the style, the place might be a McDojo so what I end up with might not be what's best for me. But it would still be cool to scale castle walls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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