sansoouser Posted May 31, 2004 Posted May 31, 2004 I don't want this to be a nit picky fight, just list your style and the things it emphasizes and why you think that it is or isn't more effective than Karate or any martial art. Basically what are the pros and cons of your art? The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
Treebranch Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 Pros are it is extremely deceiving and effective. Cons are that it takes a good amount of time to understand. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
cross Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 Well as a karate-ka I would say there are alot of martial arts effective at what they are designed for, just like karate can be effective for what it is designed for. Karate wasnt made to be used in a sports event(although some styles have adapted to this which in most cases waters them down). Karate was originally created for personal defence against civilian attackers. If the student takes what he learns in class and practises effective ways to apply it then karate can work, but some people will never be very good at defending themselves no matter what you teach them.
sansoouser Posted June 1, 2004 Author Posted June 1, 2004 I agree, you can teach someone every move and they still get stomped. I think you were either born to fight or not. I myself love to fight, a good scrap now and then, but if people just learn it for self defense... They usually aren't dedicated enough to use it effectively. Any martial art can be effective, it's just whether you make it or not. The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
muaythaifreak Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 You can get some good avi's online showing karate vs. Muay Thai. They speak for themselves. Pain is temporary, glory is forever, and chicks dig scars!-=pain is weakness leaving the body=-If there's lead in the air, there is hope in the heart!
cross Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 Like i said, karate works in what it was designed for, and thats not ring fighting.
muaythaifreak Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 So karate can beat Muay Thai on the street? Don't get offended, buy I doubt that. Pain is temporary, glory is forever, and chicks dig scars!-=pain is weakness leaving the body=-If there's lead in the air, there is hope in the heart!
Mart Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 (edited) I had heard about the fights in thailand and heard that the thais one every fight in under a minute by KO. The thais also said they beat other Karate masters and Wing Chun team from HK. Then did it all again in the 80's i beleive when they all arranged to come back and do itagain. KK says otherwise so i dont know whos right or wrong. Posted this in the wrong section sorryyyyyyy! Edited June 2, 2004 by Mart Seize the day!
White Warlock Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 So karate can beat Muay Thai on the street? Don't get offended, buy I doubt that.You say that as if they're entities, rather than just systems. Dude, it's the person that matters, not merely the system they study. As well, there is the instruction, the intensity of training, and the 'right' they stand behind. I know you're a muay thai freak, but... really... expand your mind a little. I studied muay thai as well, and as good as much of it is, it's not the end-all. It's only a means. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
Mart Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 Ok i will do pros and cons but if you dont mind i would rather not compare to any other system. Muay Thai Cons 1) no ground fighting biggest problem 2) no weapons in most classes, Big problem 3) You need to be quite fit to be effective 4) Not enough defence against takedowns Pros 1) Sparring is very close to a real fight 2) training is very intesive and makes you tough 3) Uses a variety of training methods 4) Is more detailed than other systems(that i have studied) 5) Is very powerful and fast. I would have listed things like gauges but i really think that you only fight what you spar, i have seen many that have done a system for ages but didnt spar much fight as if they never did MA when it came down to it. Things like gouges are worth knowing and we get taught them, most MT clubs dont, i dont see this as a bad thing because i dont think many people would think of it during a fight. Regarding the weapons, Fairtex gym in bangkok is introducing weapons in their camp so they will be doing Krabi Krabong as well. Maybe this will catch on. I hope so, always wanted a Dahb. Seize the day!
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