90% of all fights end up on the ground?

[Mart]

Wasnt sure where to post this but as this is aimed at anyone i guess general.

 

So i expect youve heard this before that 90% of fights end up on the ground.

 

My question is does your system allow for the ground. Does it only deal with stand up? if so are you worried about going to the ground.

 

Personally i figuer that 9/10 fights end up on the ground but 10/10 fights start standing up. So my choice was to get thsi bit right first. and maybe those figures change.

 

I have done some ground stuff before and practice lots of anti take down drills with some BJJ guys i know but hey, i cant fight on the ground yet.

 

I knowi am vulnerable here and plan to do BJJ some day.

 

What are youre thought?

[WomanInBlack]

The statement that most fights end up on the ground is somewhat misleading. It would be more accurate to say that most fights end up in the grapple. This usually is the "standing clinch" and, is the reason why so many fights DO end up on the ground.

 

Personally I feel most fights go to the ground is because you (or the other person) don’t really know how to fight.

 

Adrenal rush sets in and strikes are flailing about ineffectively. Eventually a clinch ensues because nothing else is working. These inept grappling matches often end up on the ground due to the force of gravity more than anything else.

 

A basic knowledge of ground fighting skills is important.

 

How to get someone off of you, to locate and attack vulnerable areas, and to get up and out of there as soon as possible (RUN) should be learned and practiced.

[WolverineGuy]

You know, I've seen quite a few fights. One went to the ground. Usually, its by design...one guy is a wrestler. This is not to say that groundfighting doesn't have its place. On the contrary, most people do NOT know what they are doing on the ground, which actually makes it a GREAT place for a one on one fight. Take the other person out of their comfort zone.

[Fat Donkey]

:lol:U know, I've rarely seen street fights end on the ground, that is both people not the poor fool whos been KO'd say about 15%. Dont get me wrong: I think it 's essential to learn ground skills but I would concentrate more on escaping the ground and getting back up in regards to self defense. My personal nightmare is being stomped into hamburger by a group of punks. I've seen this happen to people a few times and it ain't pretty. In todays world I think u have to assume on group confrontations and train for that scenario. Here in Canada an North America in general the gangs of wannabe gansters is becoming a real problem. They are the one u usually have trouble with and these guys have no honour.

[delta1]

I'd say that less than 1/3 of all fights end in a ground grappling match. The stat is intentionally misleading, as it probably includes knock downs, knock outs, and the 'ground and pound' scenario which is just a continuation of the stand up game on a horizontal plane.

 

My thinking is that grappling, both stand up and ground, is important. But not at the expense of a good stand up fighting game. I wish I was in a position where I could do more ground work, but it's not to be right now.

[TangSooGuy]

Yes, we do train for ground fighting situations, but not extensively.

 

...and 90% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

[WolverineGuy]

97.248%, you mean.

[aefibird]

I train in karate and have done some aikido too, so my main MA training is in stand-up defence work. However, I think that ground training in important too. Most of the ground work I've done has involved trying to keep the attacker(s) away from you whilst simultaneously trying to get back on your feet, which I think that not enough people work on, from what I've read on this forum and also from talking to martial artists that I know.

[Reklats]

Actually, this idea is really interesting. I have probably 200 videos of people going at it on my computer (in a street/non-training situation). Maybe 10% go to the ground because one or both people WANT to be on the ground. Usually it's just the people getting tired or losing their balance or getting knocked down. Overall of my videos, I bet around 30-40% end up on the ground (and keep going).

 

On a related note: If someone WANTS the fight to go to the ground, it inevitably will.

[White Warlock]

Will agree with WomanInBlack's assertion.

 

I truly doubt anyone has actually gone out and performed a viable collation of data on streetfights, and thus been able to come up with such a silly statistic.

 

But, even assuming such was the case (which we all know is outright b.s.), 90% of people don't know how to fight, be it stand-up... or on the ground. Given this, common sense would tell you that two fumbling idiots pounding on each other would eventually fall over and continue their ineffective poundings on the ground.

 

Now, don't dismiss your need to study groundfighting merely based on this. The fact of the matter is, if you encounter someone who 'does' know how to fight on the ground, that's where he's likely going to take you... which would put you out of your element. It is essential to be well rounded, that way you can choose where to take the fight... rather than your opposition making the choice.