The Final Say: GRAPPLING VS STRIKING

[47MartialMan]

my bad, I didn't see any of this - haven't been back to this thread. There's a thread called striking vs grappling - I'll find it. 47mm, I think you posted in it as well. It was a thread saying that if you HAD to pick striking or grappling, which would it be and why. I picked grappling. I'll go dig it up.

 

Yeah, but I know a few that are strong strikers. If one does not have strong strikes, yes pick grappling.

[Sasori_Te]

47mm what is your martial arts background? I've never asked. I'm curious.

[47MartialMan]

"Curiousity killed the cat".

[Sasori_Te]

Yeah that's what I thought and expected.

[SevenStar]

Yeah, but I know a few that are strong strikers. If one does not have strong strikes, yes pick grappling.

 

if that strong striker can't defend takedowns well, he's still gonna have a hard time.

[SevenStar]

I have been in many street fights throughout my life and I disagree with the statement that 90% of fights end up on the ground . I think it is closer to half.

 

the thing about statistics is you don't know who is being surveyed. For the general public, it's way less than 90%, most likely. However, there is a published stat somewhere that says about 85% of law enforcement/security officer confrontations end up on the ground.

 

I think you should be efficient in both striking and grappling in todays world.

 

So do we.

 

Most of the fights I have been in are not one on one anyway. People who try to fight you usually have a friend or 2 who is just waiting to get in a couple of shots. Its a sad world but one on one seems to be going be the wayside. No honor anymore in just going toe to toe with sombody and beating the crap out of them . I think striking and deflection techniques prepare you for more that one opponant better that BJJ or other grappling techniques. Face it , you dont want to be on the ground with one guy dislocating his shoulder while his friend steps on your face.

 

1. why do you think he wants to be on the ground? Most bjj self defense stuff consists of standing throws. judo is the same.

 

2. if you do end up on the ground, who is better off - the guy who knows the ground and is comfortable, or the guy who only does standup?

 

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[47MartialMan]

Yeah, for clarification, grappling doesnt also mean actual on ground fighting-does it?

 

And for sure, a arsenal of many is better than a limitation of one.

 

So far, not to sound biased or one sided, I have yet to see a grappler take a hit from a very strong striker.

 

Hey, I would like to observe the other way around. Observation has me learn.

 

How many old Karate masters were strong strikers?

[White Warlock]

So far, not to sound biased or one sided, I have yet to see a grappler take a hit from a very strong striker.

I've yet to see a striker escape from a lock from a very strong grappler.

 

Accomplished strikers have 'experience' in taking a hit, just as accomplished grapplers have 'experience' in escaping from a lock. I'm a little confused about the argument your attempting to pose here though. I mean... what's your point?

 

And where am i coming from? It is a rarity, nowadays, to find a 'pure' striker or a 'pure' grappler... so the basis for your argument somewhat confuses me.

[47MartialMan]

Nah, I have no arguement. Just that I had not yet, as I had described, seen a grappler take a hit from a strong striker. Yet, is my key word. And yeah, as I had stated, a arsenal is beneficial. And yeah, I had seen pure strikers. People whom, not by my agreement, rely only on their fists. And yes, it is a rarity to find a "purist"

[longarm25]

Practice both because you dont always get to dictate the situation but if your well versed you can take control of it as it plays out