GhostFighter Posted May 19, 2004 Posted May 19, 2004 So i wanna train Jujitsu but is it worth it? I mean will it help me when im in an actual fight on the street? How much time will it take before someone is good at this art? Whats the difference between Jujitsu and Judo? Does this sport also teach you how to punch and kick? Any other things that i should know before going on Jujitsu? Everyday is a fight
Kirves Posted May 19, 2004 Posted May 19, 2004 In most judo, you don't practice much strikes. In jujutsu, you usually have strike and weapons practice too. Jujutsu is ok for self defence, but there are many different styles available, some are better some are worse.
Treebranch Posted May 19, 2004 Posted May 19, 2004 It really depends on the type of Jujutsu and what the teacher puts emphasis on. If they are adapting the Jujutsu to modern needs and they train hard and do randori, then you can't go wrong. Unless you have experience with other MA or you just have a good understanding of fighting you should be effective enough to protect yourself fairly well in a short time. I do think that if you want to be effective in a short time you are wasting your time with Jujutsu or any of the viable MA's. Even the most basic of strikes, kicks and throws can be learned quickly, but the finer points are what make you efficient and effective. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Reklats Posted May 20, 2004 Posted May 20, 2004 So i wanna train Jujitsu but is it worth it? I mean will it help me when im in an actual fight on the street? How much time will it take before someone is good at this art? Whats the difference between Jujitsu and Judo? Does this sport also teach you how to punch and kick? Any other things that i should know before going on Jujitsu? I do Brazilian jiu-jitsu, so lets assume that type: -Yes, -yes, -6 months, -BJJ is grappling with takedowns as you can get them, Judo is grapplign with emphasis on stylized throws, ask someone else about jujitsu. -We do a little punching and kicking, most BJJ places will be little/none. -Look for BJJ. BJJ is completely different than trad. jj.
Gumbi Posted May 20, 2004 Posted May 20, 2004 So i wanna train Jujitsu but is it worth it? 1:I mean will it help me when im in an actual fight on the street? 2:How much time will it take before someone is good at this art? 3:Whats the difference between Jujitsu and Judo? 4:Does this sport also teach you how to punch and kick? 5:Any other things that i should know before going on Jujitsu? 1: If you're talking about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, yes, it certainly will help you (ALOT) if you get into a real fight- its so effective its scary. If you're talking about Traditional Ju Jitsu, theres a lot of variables. TJJ schools depend on the instructor, as some teach more strikes, others more throws, and even others more ground work. Personally, I don find TJJ very practical. 2: Generally, if you train 2X a week in about 6 months you could really dominate an untrained person on the ground. Even by your first month of BJJ, you're already learning the most important things such as how to get someone off of you if you're mounted, as well as a few basic submissions. You've also got a plan of attack- you generally know what stable positions there are in a ground fight, and you kind of know which ones are the best to get (i.e. you'll work to get a mounted position on your opponent) 3: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Judo are different in a few ways. For one, in Judo you can win a match by a perfect throw technique (ippon). Once you're on the ground, you've only got a few seconds of ground work before you're stood back to your feet again. Once on the ground, you're also only allowed to apply submissions in the form of choke holds and joint locks at the elbow. Pressure against the face it illegal, so if someone tucks their chin, you cant choke them over their face, nor can you cross face them to bring their chin up. If at any point on the ground you lift your opponent off the mat- tech break is called and both fighters are restarted from standing position. Since the easiest way to victory is a throw, you'll see MUCH more emphasis on throwing techniques and takedowns. BJJ on the other hand, victory is only attained by submission or by points (when match time expires). You cannot escape submissions by lifting your opponent off the ground (i.e. the match still continues if you lift an opponent) and pretty much there are a lot more submission options- footlocks, kneelocks, shoulder locks, wristlocks, choke holds, etc. Usually once a BJJ match goes to the ground, it stays there, so you'll see alot more emphasis on ground fighting techniques. 4: SPORT BJJ does not teach you how to punch and kick, simply because strikes arent used in competition. Most BJJ schools are sportive schools. Gracie BJJ on the other hand, has alot of self defense techniques, however, very few punches and kicks. The mentality behind BJJ is you always assume your opponent is bigger, faster, and stronger than you are. In such a situation you wouldnt want to trade punches with an attacker. Then also take into account that even when well conditioned, hands often break when throwing punches in a real fight. For those reasons, BJJ generally only teaches you enough (like 1 or 2 strikes) to setup a clinch from where you can take advantage of your grappling skills. Traditional Ju Jitsu has strikes, but once again it depends on which instuctor you train under and which school hes from (schools will generally dictate the techniques he'll favor and teach whether it be strikes, throws, or groundwork) and there is also no sportive competitions in TJJ. 5: Whether you're just trying to have fun, get in shape, find a new hobby, or trying to become an MMA fighter, BJJ is simply fun to do and it often has a pretty relaxed atmosphere. Most people that do BJJ are also adults, and since you do hands on grappling/sparring with each other, classes are separated between the adults and children (if there are any).
GhostFighter Posted May 20, 2004 Author Posted May 20, 2004 Thx everyone for your replies and BJJ seems very appealing. Everyday is a fight
Treebranch Posted May 20, 2004 Posted May 20, 2004 The only thing about BJJ is that they don't cover evasion well, striking, or weapons. These aspects of fighting can be very important if someone pulls a knife or has a club, etc... So it all depends on what kind of training you are looking for. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Legion Posted May 20, 2004 Posted May 20, 2004 wow jujitsu sounds great .. does it emphasise on locks ? Orange sash
Gumbi Posted May 21, 2004 Posted May 21, 2004 Yeah, thats pretty much what Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is- joint locks and strangle holds. The idea is that you may be bigger and stronger than me, so I cant hope to defeat your strength. What you do instead is attack the neck or a limb. My arms my not be as strong as your arms, but when I apply an armbar my arms, back, and hamstrings are much stronger than your lone arm.
Treebranch Posted May 21, 2004 Posted May 21, 2004 That's the same as TJJ, except it takes longer and is more difficult to apply locks while standing, but you can always strike the person first and then throw them. Yes, Jujitsu emphasizes on locks, throws, takedowns, controlling, punches, kicks, head strikes, knife hand, knees, elbows, body strikes, weapons, falling and rolling. Oh yeah, discipline and respect for others. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
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