Drunken Boxing.......useless?

[battousai16]

"drunken doesn't actually use booze... It stems from one of the stories of how the system began. There was a monk who was kicked out of the monestary. He got drunk, and in his drunken rage, he returned to the monestary and took out like 30 people. The next morning, he recalled what he had done and the techniques he had used in his drunken stupor. These techniques became the foundation of drunken boxing."

 

seems to me that if he was drunk enough to take out 30 people, he shouldn't have been able to remember the evening

 

i've heard stuff about 7 drunken immortals, but i really don't know. seems more plausable that someone was watching someone else fight drunk than doing it themselves. i dunno, i've never learned it.

[SevenStar]

the seven immortals is a different legend of how it began - there were seven immortals, each of whom specialized in a particular technique. It's been so long since I read the article (i've got an issue of kung fu illustrated from '86 that has a write up about it), but I'm sure you can find some stuff on the net. ) One specialized in wrist grabs, another in pressure points, one in bone breaking, one in ground fighting, etc.

[Jiyn]

i think that it is a good teqnique as your opponent cannot tell what you are going to do next because you wobbling around all over the place and it confuses the opponent.

[SevenStar]

yeah, but on the same token, how much wasted motion is there?

[Zanbato]

i dont know i dont claim to know a whole lot about this style but my buddy says that when he spars with his grandmasters son, the son always uses these drunken type movements and totally throws my friend off all the time...so idont really know my guess is that its at least moderatley effective if used correctly...but isnt it like that for just about any art.......

[battousai16]

i can only imagine that it depends on where your priorities lye. if you like to conserve energy, drunken boxing probably isn't your game.

[Drunken Monkey]

hmm, aren't you supposed to be almost floating in the way you move in drunken, so your movement is almost natural 'stumbling' like.

 

and

 

if you look at the stepping, you will still see classical chinese stances there, they are just slightly offset to you (in the way that they enter and face).

 

also, drunken style uses a lot more waist movement.

 

this is why it was considered a more advanced set of theories.

 

traditionally, good kung fu meant solid stance, good centre, solid bridges etc etc.

 

part of this meant that your hip unit hardly ever shifts from its position in relation to your spine (lining up the major points and all that...)

 

drunken uses a lot of waist movement meaning that you have to switch from solid hip+lined up structure to 'non-form' (best description i could think of) and back again.

 

this is why it was not really taught until much later in your martial arts because it needed that you have excellent control of your form/structure.

[JLee]

is that what was used in the movie "drunken master?"

[Thuggish]

i sparred a guy once who did some kind of drunken form- and as much as i dislike styles such as kung fu- this guy knew how to fight (unlike most of that people in the kung fu class) and he applied it quite well.

[Thuggish]

oh, and dont confuse drunken forms with that wushu crap they do thats called 'drunken' completely different things there.