Bratt Posted September 2, 2002 Posted September 2, 2002 We learned Gekisai Dai Ichi and Ni first, then we started some of the Taikyoku series as well as some Kihon Ido Sets "Freedom discovers man the moment he loses concern over what impression he is making or about to make" -Bruce Leehttp://www.myvidtodvd.com/mysmilies/otn/other/leseratte.gifhttp://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/contrib/xerx/smileystooges.gif
G95champ Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 Sensei Harvey would start the young kids with the Tiakyoko but the teens and adults he began on Heian. When I started teaching I had mostly young kids so I choose to teach them to everyone first. I teach Tiakyoko Shodan, Nidan, and Sandan. I have never saw any other. Those are the one's listed in Funakoshi's book. If they are 2 more for Yondan and Godan I would be intrested in learing this if someone can post the moves. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
justb Posted September 5, 2002 Posted September 5, 2002 We worked on bunkai for Taikyoku (empty hand, weaponry, grappling) then learned the kata. Our style regards them as essential to development for a number of reasons. From what I know there are 5 total Taikyoku, mechanically the remaining 2 that most do not know are similar to the other 3. Thanks B
LeaF Posted September 5, 2002 Posted September 5, 2002 From what I know there are 5 total Taikyoku, mechanically the remaining 2 that most do not know are similar to the other 3. B your a little off here.... I know 9 and there has to be at least 18 ( seen my seniors do some) The ones I know are Gedan, Chudan, Jodan, Maswashi uki, Kake Uki, Soto Chudan, dai cho sho, dai cho sho dai, Maswashi Kake Uki. Gedan, Chudan, Jodan, Soto Chudan are mechanically almost the same Maswashi uki, Kake Uki are simular dai cho sho, dai cho sho dai are simular Maswashi Kake Uki As the name suggests this is a combinition of Maswashi Uki and Kake Uki. Altough it is conciderably different Altough Taikyoku means first coarse (basic) Some of these katas get pretty complex (and easy to mix up) even though they all follow the same beasic floor pattern Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan KobudoGiven enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.I AM CANADIAN
Shoto Tiger Posted September 5, 2002 Posted September 5, 2002 Hi, At my previous dojo we were taught Taikyoku Shodan, Nidan, Sandan, Yondan, Godan. I have never heard of Rokudan though? Leaf said... B your a little off here.... I know 9 and there has to be at least 18 ( seen my seniors do some) The ones I know are Gedan, Chudan, Jodan, Maswashi uki, Kake Uki, Soto Chudan, dai cho sho, dai cho sho dai, Maswashi Kake Uki. Gedan, Chudan, Jodan, Soto Chudan are mechanically almost the same Sheesh! 18! How many ways can you show basic techniques? Melanie---------------Be nice if I get this right one day...
justb Posted September 5, 2002 Posted September 5, 2002 I think some of it is style dependent - but I have been told that there are 5, just like there are 5 Heian Kata & for the same reason. Thanks B
LeaF Posted September 5, 2002 Posted September 5, 2002 yea u must be right it probably is style dependant. I also do not know the orgin of all those katas so it is possible that some of them are foreign Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan KobudoGiven enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.I AM CANADIAN
Size7Gi Posted December 29, 2002 Posted December 29, 2002 With the age of this topic my reply may be purely academic, but here goes for anyone interested: The style that I currently practice is Seido, having come from a Shotokan background. As part of the syllabus both adults and children start with Taikyoku 1, 2 and (surprise, surprise) 3. Although they use the numbering system ichi, ni, san and are not strictly in the order of Funakoshi's kata. 1 = Chudan Tsuki only - blocks Gedan Barai. 2 = Jodan Tsuki only - blocks Gedan Barai. 3 = Chudan to the sides, Jodan to the middle (of the embusan) - also intruduces fighting stance (Kokutsu) and inside block (uchi uchi). Although I don't know the origin, many of the teachers intruduce "I" kata to the childrens classes which is basically Taikyoku 1 but without any 270 degree turns. After 3 punches the kata then involves moving backwards (Zenkutsu Dachi) for 3 punches, then repeating the opening moves of the kata. After Taikyoku we are quickly introduced to Pinan/Heian and a group of kata particular to Seido called (not surprisingly) Seido Kata! A kiss is worth 2 Karate chops - Snoopy
SaiFightsMS Posted December 30, 2002 Author Posted December 30, 2002 It is never to old to reopen an old thread if it is something that strikes your interest.
CheekyMusician Posted December 30, 2002 Posted December 30, 2002 My club teaches everyone Taikyoku Shodan for their first belt, and then teaches them the Heians. Smile. It makes people wonder what you've been up to.
Recommended Posts