Did you learn the Taikyoko Katas first

[Bratt]

We learned Gekisai Dai Ichi and Ni first, then we started some of the Taikyoku series as well as some Kihon Ido Sets

[G95champ]

Sensei Harvey would start the young kids with the Tiakyoko but the teens and adults he began on Heian. When I started teaching I had mostly young kids so I choose to teach them to everyone first. I teach Tiakyoko Shodan, Nidan, and Sandan.

 

I have never saw any other. Those are the one's listed in Funakoshi's book. If they are 2 more for Yondan and Godan I would be intrested in learing this if someone can post the moves.

[justb]

We worked on bunkai for Taikyoku (empty hand, weaponry, grappling) then learned the kata. Our style regards them as essential to development for a number of reasons.

 

From what I know there are 5 total Taikyoku, mechanically the remaining 2 that most do not know are similar to the other 3.

 

Thanks

 

B

[LeaF]

From what I know there are 5 total Taikyoku, mechanically the remaining 2 that most do not know are similar to the other 3.

 

B your a little off here.... I know 9 and there has to be at least 18 ( seen my seniors do some)

 

The ones I know are Gedan, Chudan, Jodan, Maswashi uki, Kake Uki, Soto Chudan, dai cho sho, dai cho sho dai, Maswashi Kake Uki.

 

Gedan, Chudan, Jodan, Soto Chudan are mechanically almost the same

 

Maswashi uki, Kake Uki are simular

 

dai cho sho, dai cho sho dai are simular

 

Maswashi Kake Uki As the name suggests this is a combinition of Maswashi Uki and Kake Uki. Altough it is conciderably different

 

Altough Taikyoku means first coarse (basic) Some of these katas get pretty complex (and easy to mix up) even though they all follow the same beasic floor pattern

[Shoto Tiger]

Hi,

 

At my previous dojo we were taught Taikyoku Shodan, Nidan, Sandan, Yondan, Godan. I have never heard of Rokudan though?

 

Leaf said...

 

B your a little off here.... I know 9 and there has to be at least 18 ( seen my seniors do some)

 

The ones I know are Gedan, Chudan, Jodan, Maswashi uki, Kake Uki, Soto Chudan, dai cho sho, dai cho sho dai, Maswashi Kake Uki.

 

Gedan, Chudan, Jodan, Soto Chudan are mechanically almost the same

 

Sheesh! 18! How many ways can you show basic techniques?

[justb]

I think some of it is style dependent - but I have been told that there are 5, just like there are 5 Heian Kata & for the same reason.

 

Thanks

 

B

[LeaF]

yea u must be right it probably is style dependant. I also do not know the orgin of all those katas so it is possible that some of them are foreign

[Size7Gi]

With the age of this topic my reply may be purely academic, but here goes for anyone interested:

 

The style that I currently practice is Seido, having come from a Shotokan background. As part of the syllabus both adults and children start with Taikyoku 1, 2 and (surprise, surprise) 3. Although they use the numbering system ichi, ni, san and are not strictly in the order of Funakoshi's kata.

 

1 = Chudan Tsuki only - blocks Gedan Barai.

 

2 = Jodan Tsuki only - blocks Gedan Barai.

 

3 = Chudan to the sides, Jodan to the middle (of the embusan) - also intruduces fighting stance (Kokutsu) and inside block (uchi uchi).

 

Although I don't know the origin, many of the teachers intruduce "I" kata to the childrens classes which is basically Taikyoku 1 but without any 270 degree turns. After 3 punches the kata then involves moving backwards (Zenkutsu Dachi) for 3 punches, then repeating the opening moves of the kata.

 

After Taikyoku we are quickly introduced to Pinan/Heian and a group of kata particular to Seido called (not surprisingly) Seido Kata!

[SaiFightsMS]

It is never to old to reopen an old thread if it is something that strikes your interest.

[CheekyMusician]

My club teaches everyone Taikyoku Shodan for their first belt, and then teaches them the Heians.