SaiFightsMS Posted November 23, 2001 Posted November 23, 2001 I know some groups learn Heian shodan as their first kata and some groups start with other katas. Which did you learn first? :???:Or, do the adults start with one kata and the kids class with another kata?
Karateka Posted November 25, 2001 Posted November 25, 2001 Pinan Nidan, Pinan Sandan, Pinan Shodan, Pinan Yondan, Pinan Godan. Pinan is like Heian, except Pinan is a city in China! "Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei)
SaiFightsMS Posted November 25, 2001 Author Posted November 25, 2001 Thanks Karateka, I appreciate your response. I am extremely interested in how different people and different groups do things. Some groups that work with a lot of younger children have inserted katas even before the Taikyoku's. And yes most Okinawan styles call the same katas Pinan as Japanese styles call them Heians. And sometimes the order of the first and second katas is different.
Tobias_Reece Posted November 26, 2001 Posted November 26, 2001 At my previous club (when I was a youthful 6 year old) we started with Taikyoku Shodan. At my current club, we do the same kata, but call it Kihon Kata I' ve never learnt Taikyoku Nidan, Sandan, Yondan, Godan or Rokudan C ya "You Are Never Given A Dream Without Also Being Given The Power To Make It True. You May Have To Work For It, However"Principal Kobudo Instructor & OwnerWest Yorkshire Kobudo Academy2nd Kyu (Matayoshi Okinawan Kobudo, IOKA UK)
SaiFightsMS Posted November 27, 2001 Author Posted November 27, 2001 Thanks Tobias we learned the first 2 under the name Fyukyu. And I have seen them under the names ten no and chi no as well.
ronryu Posted December 15, 2001 Posted December 15, 2001 We start with the Taikyokyu kata we have 6 of the basic kata the first 3 i belve are the same as the ones Funokoshi created . we then follow those with Tenno (fukigata ichi ) and Chino (fukigata ni , gekisai dia ichi ) . then we start with the pinans and you are correct the first 2 pinans and heians are switched ie... pinanshodan is heian nidan and pinan nidan is heian shodan .... Karate is not a sport , it is a way of life .Sandan Motobu ha Shi-to ryu karate Katsu ryu kempo Ryukyu kobudo
AnonymousOne Posted February 1, 2002 Posted February 1, 2002 Our school teaches Taikyoku to adults and students after they get their first grade. After that its the 5 Heians, Tekki Shodan, Hangetsu and Bassai Dai for Shodan grading 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing
MOO Posted February 14, 2002 Posted February 14, 2002 in our dojo ( Gojo Ryu) we are taught the taikyoko ( jodan, chudan, gedan) first, as they involve the basic stances, blocks and punches which are vital for a beginner to learn..... moo I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT IS EVEN HALF INSPIRATIONAL!
ramymensa Posted August 31, 2002 Posted August 31, 2002 We were taught taikyoku shodan first. After that we got to the pinan (heian) series without doing taikyoku nidan or the others. Guess it would have been a waste of time In our dojo we start at the 10th kyu level wearing the white belt, but having to earn it. Thus the 9th kyu has still a white belt For the exam to the white belt to the other white belt (with a superir rank though) we have to perform taikyoku shodan. Afterwards the heians. For myself it was OK, because heian shodan is a little more difficult and knowink taikyoku shodan was helful. I remember I had some problems with tettsui Hope I've helped a little here World Shotokan Karate
LeaF Posted August 31, 2002 Posted August 31, 2002 In my dojo we learn taikyoku gedan then chudan and jodan just like moo. Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan KobudoGiven enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.I AM CANADIAN
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