Hands considered deadly weapon?

[benkendrick]

The article is ignorant journalistic B.S.

 

Unfortunate, but still very common. It is the responsibility of a journalist to either 'quote' someone else's statements, or to verify anything being presented to them as fact. However, many journalists are lazy and simply don't do their homework.

 

Television news providers are the worst.

 

The article I refered to came from a book I read many years ago. It was written by John Corcoran(sp?) & Emil Farkas. I believe the title was something like "The Complete Martial Arts Catalog". It was a Q.A. type book answering FAQ's on various facets of the MA and MA personalities.

 

Although I don't disagree with you. I was merely relaying what I had read.

[SBN Doug]

Here's a similar thread:

 

http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=7659

 

A couple good links to legal debunking sites too.

 

I'm moving this to the same forum.

[TheDevilAside]

Ah, good, I wasn't really sure if that was correct.

 

Back to the original question, yes, I would consider your hands a lethal weapon. We train to use them as a weapon to (if necessary) kill. But I wouldn't hold them in the same light as a gun or knife

[MMoudry]

Back to the original question, yes, I would consider your hands a lethal weapon. We train to use them as a weapon to (if necessary) kill. But I wouldn't hold them in the same light as a gun or knife

 

Basically as for the damage they can cause, they can be qualified inferior to kitchen knife with less reach than baseball bat. So basically they are NOT a deadly weapon by standard arms classification. If woul be like classyfiing a di*do a deadly weapon e.g. If I poke/hit you with it hard enough to a specific place you will die (back of the head for example ).

 

This whole idea sounds SOO hollywood and so out of reality. I mean in real martial arts you learn how to fight in unarmed combat. The training doesn't make your arms more or less deadly. I mean if an untrained guy will poke his index finger into someones eye deep enough he will kill him as well. Or if someone stomps on one's head hard enough.....

 

I just SEE those new martial arts guys sitting by their comp, looking at their fists and thinking.... this is a deadly weapon in unarmed combat....

 

no offence

 

been there too

[returning_wave]

you can strangle someone with the sleeve of your sweater. do you register that?

 

above any other considerations registerign your hands as a deadly weapon in the UK would make you a prisoner in our own home. No weapon may be carried in public in britain

[Drunken Monkey]

actually that's not strictly true...

 

the police have no problems with me carrying my 'toys' about, just so long as they are in a proper carrying case and not obviously in view.

 

what they don't like, are guns, which are pretty much illegal with a few exceptional circumstances, and knives (or any such bladed weapon).

 

some of you might remember my little encounter with some 'pesky kids' whilst i had my 'three' on my back....

[delta1]

...has there ever been situations where a persons hands are considered deadly weapons?

 

In the US, registering your hands is a myth.

 

In a court of law, they will consider your skill level, your potential to do harm, and the threat you were responding to when you used force. Hands, shoes, your butt- anything can be considered a deadly weapon if it had the potential to kill and was forcefully used. Question is, was it intentional and was it justified.

[battousai16]

"some of you might remember my little encounter with some 'pesky kids' whilst i had my 'three' on my back...."

 

heh heh, a good story, i must say...

[White Warlock]

Although I don't disagree with you. I was merely relaying what I had read.

I understood that and my outburst was not directed at you, but at the mass of lazy 'so-called' journalists out there. They give a bad name to the good journalists and provide an easy-in for special interests to toss out messages that are fallacious or outright damaging to the general public.

 

Anyway, off topic.

[Zorba]

Basically, if jo blo was to injure/kill someone in a brawl, under the self defence law, they would have more leniency than if a martial artist inflicted the same injury/death in the same situation.