White Warlock Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 be like water adapt yourself to every situation.or soil yourself. and for the boxers out there id recomend this guard. you put your front hand down(the one with the jab) but not too low. that way you'll see the low kicks much better and have more opportunities.I disagree. The boxer, being not trained in how to deal with a kick, having one hand down may very well encourage the boxer to make the foolish 'reaction' of attempting to 'block' a low-spun kick. *snap* get a new arm. It is best if the boxer treats the kicker as if he were a 'long-armed' opponent. Stay out of range, until the kicker overcommits, then enter inside and finish him off. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 and for the boxers out there id recomend this guard. you put your front hand down(the one with the jab) but not too low. that way you'll see the low kicks much better and have more opportunities.I disagree. The boxer, being not trained in how to deal with a kick, having one hand down may very well encourage the boxer to make the foolish 'reaction' of attempting to 'block' a low-spun kick. *snap* get a new arm. It is best if the boxer treats the kicker as if he were a 'long-armed' opponent. Stay out of range, until the kicker overcommits, then enter inside and finish him off. i see your view...... i usually post ideas on some of my experiences in fights. trying to give some help...but not a rule to follow. Even the most powerful human being has a limited sphere of strength. Draw him outside of that sphere and into your own, and his strength will dissipate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 trying to give some help...but not a rule to follow.Well, here's a rule for every martial artist to follow: -= Stick to what you know =- Don't adjust what you know to accommodate a different system, unless you've had sufficient time and training against that particular system to have thoroughly tested any adjustments made. In the example you posed, Gilbert, that adjustment of dropping your lead arm is a knee-jerk response to knowing someone may attack low. However, it serves absolutely no defensive purpose, actually encourages possible bad response, and especially... takes you out of your game. Boxing provides sufficient training to allow you to handle most any type of attack style. The problem happens at the practitioner's level, where he abandons some of his training just because a kick comes from a different part of the body and can be aimed for an area that the boxer traditionally does not study to defend. However, if he sticks to his game, and treats an appendage as an appendage, rather than a punch as a punch and a kick as a kick, he will be able to overcome his opposition. The tactics are there... and need merely to be applied with a more 'liberal' brush. You should always fight your fight, and not allow someone to cause you to fight their fight. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 treebranch beat me to it. i dont know if this is allowed in the rules you were sparring with.. but id take him to the ground, or atleast get him in a clinch to control him, ideally take his back. if youre good and fast, all you have to do is see one punch coming and you can take the guy and choke him out. (not always but you know.) "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." -Machiavelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingkaratechamp Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Take him to the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longarm25 Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 I tell my people "Don't try to box a boxer. If you do, you're playing HIS game, and that's not good!" I agree..use your legs, go for targests such as knees, groin, feet, lower abdomen, etc that the boxer isn't used to protecting. Also, if you feel it is reasonably safe to do so, go to the ground and get below his hands. Sliding under his punches quickly and attacking the above mentioned areas fast and hard can take him down and off his feet where he has lost his only advantage. I've been lucky over the years to have had the opportunity to have soem good boxers, wrestlers and street fighters in my class to work with and see what they suckered for. You just have to be VERY careful and very quick with them and know how they attack inb their chosen "system". I Agree either keep out of range of his punches or tie his hands up w/ grappling PhilRyu Kyu Christian Karate Federation"Do not be dependent on others for your improvement. Pay respect to God and Buddhabut do not reley on them." Musashi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beiner Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Well if boxer is good at punching, taking him to his back would help, but taking him to his stomach would be better. Personally Id try to get him down as fast as I could, bvecause a good boxer would have a much stronger punch then me, but if I get him on his stomach he can't hit me anymore, and choke hold are easy to get from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Just fight him? I mean, really, why would a boxer out-fight you if you have a non-sport oriented fighting style? If he advances, jam him! I would fight him in a straight line and jam him without second thought. There seems to be a notion that because you're not a "punching" style that you're allowed to have slower, weaker punches. Wrong. You should be able to box with a boxer without failure. Otherwise your punches are useless to you. The game of chess is much like a swordfight; you must think before you move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dragon Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 If boxers underestimate you,you will have a big advantage.If they know you take a MA,im pretty sure they'll be more defensive for both high n low attacks. Or you could always take him down and do some ground fighting..well thats if you do know how....if u do,he'll just be a dog on a leash for you. ''I know what your thinking.........did I shoot you 3 times? or did I shoot you 472 times?'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Thanks Hudson, almost exactly what i have been trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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