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True - but they often go through alot of pain doing so. I'm reminded of a good PrideFC fight where a kickboxer faced off with a wrestler - the kickboxer lost by a submission ultimately, but the silly wrestler was beat on pretty bad. After seeing some well timed head-kicks and some nasty punches, the wrestler was about through. It was kind of sad to see a good stand-up game ruined by h*mpin' around in the cage.

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Don't by sore.

"It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who

are willing to endure pain with patience."


"Lock em out or Knock em out"

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I'm inclined to think that grapplers also meet their match when the other person simply outweighs them!

 

Let's see, there's a reason why there's weight classes in all competition wrestling... Hmm... what could it be...

 

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Well I wasn't referring to wrestling or even sports related grappling. But Grappling Arts in general use the tactic of nullifying an a attack by taking the opponents striking weapons away as well as stealing their balance. Jujutsu have plenty of strikes, but they are means to an end not the end itself. :)

"It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who

are willing to endure pain with patience."


"Lock em out or Knock em out"

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From outside, I'd kick his legs till he couldn't stand up. In close, I'd clinch and wear him out with knees and elbows. Boxing wasn't designed so much for combat as sport and these techniques would leave him without defense. You take a chance getting in close enough to clinch, but it would be worth it.

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specialk0783 wrote:

This is rather ignorant.

 

If a guy wants to spar me, and I know he takes BJJ...I'm not going to hop into the ring with him and hope that my TKD works, if I've had no prior training or understanding of BJJ. You're asking to get beat.

 

If the guy is a boxer, I'm going to research some boxing (which is fairly simple sport) - I'm going to get into the ring knowing to expect all punches, and I'm going to go from there. I'm not going to look at him as just another fighter.

 

If a guy says he does TKD, I'm not going to step in there hoping to perform wrist locks on him from karate. I'm going to know to watch out for fast and powerful kicks.

 

I dont think you understand my point, so ill try and explain further.

 

When you spar someone, there are only so many things they can do, e.g punch, kick, grapple.

 

Hopefully in whatever art you study you have learned how to apply your techniques in such a way that you can defend against these actions or stop them from happening altogether.

 

Obviously boxers are very good at one of the decribed areas, that is punching, so you want to hope that you have learned some very good ways to defend against punches or not give him the oppertunity to use his punching to begin with.

 

Then you must attack back, so you do whatever it is you normally do, punch, kick, or grapple.

 

In this way your gameplan stays the same nomatter who you are sparring.

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If a guy wants to spar me, and I know he takes BJJ...I'm not going to hop into the ring with him and hope that my TKD works, if I've had no prior training or understanding of BJJ. You're asking to get beat.

An interesting position. So what happens to you in a real fight? Do you need to reschedule to reasearch his art?

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there can be two types of boxers

 

and excuse my languange....

 

1.a stupid boxer

 

2.a good boxer

 

a stupid boxer will want to show off and bob and weive and come at you like an idiot with punches all over trying to confuse you..but hell be surprised when he gets kicked in the groin or in the head or legs.

 

a good boxer....will get his guard up...if he knows that he is fighting with an opponent that kicks. he may want to use another guard..and for the boxers out there id recomend this guard. you put your front hand down(the one with the jab) but not too low. that way you'll see the low kicks much better and have more opportunities.

Even the most powerful human being has a limited sphere of strength. Draw him outside of that sphere and into your own, and his strength will dissipate.

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