Sibylla Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 (edited) Why do you want to go to the ground? That is not smart if your standing up and he is lying down. This is what you do: Yank the arm upwards that your holding so that he is on is side (important), at the same time lift your left foot up, set it down in front of his throat. Do not swing it around the side of his head so he can see what is coming, just lift your foot up and place it down. Now he is on his side, your left foot is against his throat, your right against his back. He is basically stuck now. Then you take the arm your holding, press his elbow against your left knee, in the opposite direction of his elbowjoint. Now he is stuck, and his arm is in danger... From this standing position you can roll back into a armbar, but why? You got the guy already. Edited April 10, 2004 by Sibylla
AndrewGreen Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 Thats like asking how to land a punch without footwork. Learn positional stuff, learn to control the guy, then start looking at submissions. But like said, go find a picture. Knees squeeze in, pull heels to but, secure the wrist and lift your hips. Andrew Greenhttp://innovativema.ca - All the top martial arts news!
Rich_2k3 Posted April 10, 2004 Author Posted April 10, 2004 Do you hold the opponents arm in your lower thighs near your knees or in your upper thighs, i've seen a picture on the BJJ.org site but I dont know where the arm is positioned within the thighs? also where do you apply pressure on the arm to submit/break? "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee
WolverineGuy Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 Put your hips just above the elbow (on the side nearest to their shoulder). Squeeze your knees together and bridge. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
goshinman Posted April 11, 2004 Posted April 11, 2004 Remember that the technique's power comes from thrusting your hips upward. Well actually I shouldn't say thrusting because in a friendly match you want to control the force in your technique as much as possible so as to not seriously hurt the guy. Tapped out, knocked out, or choked out...Take your pick.http://jujitsu4u.com/http://www.combatwrestling.com/http://gokor.com/
Reklats Posted April 12, 2004 Posted April 12, 2004 Why do you want to go to the ground? That is not smart if your standing up and he is lying down. This is what you do: Yank the arm upwards that your holding so that he is on is side (important), at the same time lift your left foot up, set it down in front of his throat. Do not swing it around the side of his head so he can see what is coming, just lift your foot up and place it down. Now he is on his side, your left foot is against his throat, your right against his back. He is basically stuck now. Then you take the arm your holding, press his elbow against your left knee, in the opposite direction of his elbowjoint. Now he is stuck, and his arm is in danger... From this standing position you can roll back into a armbar, but why? You got the guy already. You have your way of controlling someone, I have mine. I've seen people do something similar to your elbow-knee thing, and it looks rediculous. It'd be a lot harder to get someone off your chest.
Sibylla Posted April 12, 2004 Posted April 12, 2004 Any grappler knows how to escape from someone sitting on your chest. Several ways to do it. You might have seen the technique I described, but have you tried it? I've yet to see anyone escape it. Anyway, Rich described it as a defence against knifeattack. Throw yourself to the ground and try to apply an armbar sounds like a good way to get yourself killed.
AndrewGreen Posted April 12, 2004 Posted April 12, 2004 It's always amusing when non-grapplers argue about grappling Andrew Greenhttp://innovativema.ca - All the top martial arts news!
WolverineGuy Posted April 12, 2004 Posted April 12, 2004 hehe, agreed Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
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