Rich_2k3 Posted April 8, 2004 Posted April 8, 2004 Ok, I do karate and i've never done any grappling arts. However there are some throws, especially for knife defences that we learn. I need a grapplers expert advice and remember I know nothing about locks so treat me as a complete newbie and be as comprehensive as u like. Ok then, i've taken the guy to the ground and i'm standing over him on his left side, I have hold of his right wrist with my left hand. I'm in left stance and his arm is more or less touching the inside of my left leg; what do I do next, I'd like to know how to initiate an arm bar from here, i'm guessing i'll be stepping over his head and then going to the ground? "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee
iolair Posted April 8, 2004 Posted April 8, 2004 They say a picture is worth a thousand words... Go here --> http://www.judoinfo.com/techdrw.htm and scroll down to the Armbars/Joint Locking Techniques (Kansetsuwaza) section. Currently: Kickboxing and variants.Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.
Reklats Posted April 8, 2004 Posted April 8, 2004 Honestly, as a grappler I'd be more comfy taking mount (sitting on him) first, then maybe working the armbar. I can't see you being fast enough to get it (from standing) without the guy reacting first.
WolverineGuy Posted April 9, 2004 Posted April 9, 2004 Oh, it's entirely possible, but you have to be thinking armbar from the start. The key is to do the throw into the armbar as one technique. If you hesitate too much, its lost. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
Rich_2k3 Posted April 9, 2004 Author Posted April 9, 2004 Remember I'll be fighting karateka's who have no experience in grappling. However one of our experienced black belts, a fantastic martial artist, has crossed trained in Jujitsu, so he teaches some of our guys how to grapple when we get to 2nd purple belt, i'm not there yet, but i'd like to be ahead of the game when I do. U see to recieve our 2nd purple we must do some free fighting in front of the class, grappling is allowed. I know a good throw to use; its actually a knife defence but it works well with a punch too, when they hit the floor i'm more or less ready to go into an arm bar (only seen pics though). Theres is one problem with my throw, it includes an attack to the neck, like a clothes-line. Its designed to take out the opponent before they hit the ground, so i've got to be careful, which aint gonna help when my opponents struggling. Remember I have no training in grappling arts. "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee
Rich_2k3 Posted April 9, 2004 Author Posted April 9, 2004 Honestly, as a grappler I'd be more comfy taking mount (sitting on him) first, then maybe working the armbar. I can't see you being fast enough to get it (from standing) without the guy reacting first. He will be reacting first, i'll get him when he throws a reverse. "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee
cross Posted April 9, 2004 Posted April 9, 2004 i'll get him when he throws a reverse. What makes you assume he will??
Rich_2k3 Posted April 9, 2004 Author Posted April 9, 2004 Because we'll be free fighting in karate, i'll keep this technique saved for when a punch comes in. We always train as u usaully would in karate, with striking. But for your 2nd purple grading and on some occasions(only past 2nd purple) we train with grappling. "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee
Rich_2k3 Posted April 9, 2004 Author Posted April 9, 2004 Anyway guys, how do u do it? "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee
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