TKD Forms

[KickChick]

For competition next month I will be doing Kwang Gae and have found many different discrepancies as to how I learned from my instructor and what I have found on the various "forms/hyung" sites...

 

I judged at one competition a few years ago and also noticed various degrees of differences between all the schools and their "portrayal" of their TKD forms.

 

The most common discrepancies fall into two categories "height/level" and "open/closed". The "height/level" differences are those where one school practices XXX pattern's punch at middle (chest) level and another does it at high (head) level. (XXX is any pattern's name.) It is a difference in height, or target, of the technique. The "open/closed" differences are those where one school practices XXX pattern's block open-handed (i.e. with a knifehand) and another practices that same technique with closed fists.

 

If your school teaches a pattern differently from how it is listed on these sites, there should be no cause for alarm nor reason to refute your instructor. Your Master is passing on something very special to him, perhaps very unique to his style of teaching.

 

It may even be something lets others know, "Oh, you studied under Master So-and-so." This is not something you should be concerned about. There are several discrepancies in the way I was taught to perform Kwang Gae but I'm not too worried as far as the competition goes... as this seems to be common.

 

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1st dan Black Belt Tae Kwon Do (ITF)/ CardioKickbox/Fitness Instructor

 

[ This Message was edited by: KickChick on 2002-02-26 10:21 ]

[iamrushman]

true......very nicely put and well said.....

 

 

[Phantasmatic]

That is a good website, thank you very much

 

 

[KickChick]

For those of who are familiar with Chung do kwan ... one of the original systems of teaching taekwondo... I came across an Interactive CD-ROM Master Instructor . Included are all the white belt through first dan black belt taekwondo poomse (forms one through eight) koryo plus the da'lee hyung il chung poomse. Its available at http://www.blackbeltmag.com/cdrom/ for an extremely very good price!

 

 

 

 

 

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1st dan Black Belt Tae Kwon Do (ITF)/ CardioKickbox/Fitness Instructor

 

[ This Message was edited by: KickChick on 2002-03-06 10:38 ]

[TKD_McGee]

4 bux, ill say thats a good deal.

 

 

[3rdanblack]

Hey, the guy that was doing Kwan-Gae for competion: If you know Gae-Bek do that. I am a third dan and have been told that Yoo-Sin is the competition pattern for that rank. What do you think. It's long enough but I don't know. At my school we learn Ko-don not Ju-Che so i kind of got jewed as a 2nd degree as far as competion forms go.

 

 

[jakmak52]

Here's a ITF site that might help

 

http://www.itatkd.com/index.html#ita%20menu

 

Peace

 

http://community.webshots.com/user/jakmak521

[KickChick]

For ITF (traditional) forms ... a site with video/mpg's of all the forms ... very nicely done I might add!

 

http://www.taekwondo.to/Patterns.htm

 

 

[hobbitbob]

So, On the ITU page, why are they all doing the "macarena" when they do forms? They don't chamber hand techniques, and they bounce up and down like muppets?

 

Confused!

[KickChick]

Are you familiar with the types of tuls/forms/patterns of Tae Kwon Do. I assume you are not by using the adjectives you did in describing the "movements" of those particular forms. I found the forms crisp and fluid ... and very well done by the masters on that site.

 

The primary difference between ITF and WTF (from lookingn to the two) is that ITF uses a `stepping' movement for all hand techniques.

 

This `stepping motion' that the ITF utilizes is referred to by ITF practioners as "knee spring" or "up/down Motion". It causes the body to move in a "sine wave" resulting in the whole body being involved at the moment of impact, blocking or attacking.

 

This techniques us not just used for hand techniques. It is used in ITF kicking techniques as well.

 

Forms may be performed using four different ways: traditional, quick, power, and concentration. Each has its own purpose.

 

Traditional... It is the normal way patterns will be performed during a promotion testing or in competition. This method integrates the other three methods into a smooth, rhythmic presentation where each step flows gracefully into the next in an orderly fashion. I believe this is what you call "confusing" Hobbitbob.

 

Quick. To perform the form using the quick method, complete it as fast as you can while still maintaining proper form and power. Each step is done in a quick, snappy fashion.

 

Power. To perform the form using the power method, performing techniques using max power while maintaining proper form. Each step should still be performed smoothly and orderly.

 

Concentration. To perform the form using the concentration method, perform each movement and technique slowly and deliberately with maximum concentration, while maintaining proper form. Each movement should be performed smoothly but the body is kept under maximum tension. Each movement is performed as if your body was refusing to do the movement and you must fight against it to complete the movement. This method is mentally and physically exhausting.

 

Sting once said about music. "Great music's as much about the space between the notes as it is about the notes themselves." In TKD a great form is as much about the space between the movements as it is about the movements themselves.

 

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KarateForums Sensei

 

1st dan Tae Kwon Do (ITF)

 

Cardio/Fitness Kickboxing Instr.

 

[ This Message was edited by: KickChick on 2002-06-25 10:27 ]