Ironberg Posted March 31, 2004 Author Posted March 31, 2004 I'll see what I can do. I'd really like to learn some grappling so that I can fill this gap that would come into play if I was ever caught in a tackle. Despite the fact that the grappling arts are cool - I'm at a big disadvantage that the nearest juijutsu school is a four hour drive. I'm quite certain that buying videos on juijutst wouldn't help me one bit. I'll talk to my parents again, but they are so opposed to me wrestling because they are overly convinced that I have no body type for wrestling. It's not like I'm sickly skinny, either, I'm over 160lbs. "An enlightened man would offer a weary traveler a bed for the night, and invite him to share a civilized conversation over a bowl of... Cocoa Puffs."
iolair Posted April 1, 2004 Posted April 1, 2004 Someone told me that Bill Wallace recieved a knee injury from a grappling incident in training. Is this true, or some urban rumor - cuz he did have a knee injury that caused him to compensate by overtraining the other leg (making him the champion that he was).Yes, I believe he injured his knee doing Judo ... and as you said, the result was that when he took Karate, he worked one leg twice as much when the rest of the class changed legs. There used to be an inside joke in Judo circles, that your Dan grade number was decided by the number of serious knee injuries you'd had. It is actually pretty common. You can reduce the chance of joint injuries to an extent by building up the supporting muscles round the joint. Currently: Kickboxing and variants.Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.
Ironberg Posted April 1, 2004 Author Posted April 1, 2004 I've already had one minor knee injury from striking alone. It fully recovered, but I worry about this joint injury business. Bill Wallace is my idol. He dominated the point sparring circuit and then the kickboxing circuit. It is quite ironic IMHO that mearely grappling training, not a match, injured the guy. "An enlightened man would offer a weary traveler a bed for the night, and invite him to share a civilized conversation over a bowl of... Cocoa Puffs."
Gumbi Posted April 22, 2004 Posted April 22, 2004 Jiu Jitsu was made by tall and skinny people FOR tall and skinny people. Whats so great about BJJ is that theres SO many techniques that EVERYONE regardless of their body type has potential to have a very deadly game. Im a tall skinny guy myself and Im quite flexible. This helps me when Im working on my triangles and when my opponents try to pass my guard. It also helps me when you do moves requiring leverage of your entire body (say throws for instance). Lacking in strength compared to the other guys can be seen as a disadvantage, but I look at it as an advantage- I cant pull moves off with strength, so Im FORCED to rely on technique much more than the other guys are. There are disadvantages too, but hey, lets stay positive here =)
Ironberg Posted April 24, 2004 Author Posted April 24, 2004 Good points, Gumbi. "An enlightened man would offer a weary traveler a bed for the night, and invite him to share a civilized conversation over a bowl of... Cocoa Puffs."
SevenStar Posted April 28, 2004 Posted April 28, 2004 Jiu Jitsu was made by tall and skinny people FOR tall and skinny people. Who told you that?
Gumbi Posted May 1, 2004 Posted May 1, 2004 Jiu Jitsu was made by tall and skinny people FOR tall and skinny people. Who told you that? They're called the Gracies, and the techniques in Jiu Jitsu (Brazilian anyways) are geared towards leverage rather then strength. Longer limbs allows for greater leverage.
SevenStar Posted May 1, 2004 Posted May 1, 2004 the gracies aren't that tall... they didn't tell you that. I've met royce several times. Longer limbed people may have an easier time with the guard (in some cases) and with a few techniques, like the triangle, but it's hardly a tall person's style. royce is about 6'0, and is the tallest as far as I know. rickson is 5'10. royler is 5'8. renzo is 5'10...where are these tall gracies at? Helio - the creator of the style is a little guy, which is why he created it - so smaller opponents could take larger ones.
Gumbi Posted May 2, 2004 Posted May 2, 2004 the gracies aren't that tall... they didn't tell you that. I've met royce several times. Longer limbed people may have an easier time with the guard (in some cases) and with a few techniques, like the triangle, but it's hardly a tall person's style. royce is about 6'0, and is the tallest as far as I know. rickson is 5'10. royler is 5'8. renzo is 5'10...where are these tall gracies at? Helio - the creator of the style is a little guy, which is why he created it - so smaller opponents could take larger ones. There are many tall long limbed champions in Jiu Jitsu, and the successful ones in MMA often fit that figure. Longer limbs allows for more reach around opponents and submissions such as arm triangle are made easier if you've got longer arms. Bony limbs too also work quite well when applying many submissions, such as tendon slicers and many footlocks. Then from the bottom of course theres always the triangle with long legs as you mentioned, but then longer legs also means you can keep your opponent further away and defend more effectively from punches from the top. To be fair though, there are SO many techniques in Jiu Jitsu, that every body type has its advantages and disadvatages.
SevenStar Posted May 2, 2004 Posted May 2, 2004 To be fair though, there are SO many techniques in Jiu Jitsu, that every body type has its advantages and disadvatages. agreed.
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