granmasterchen Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I have seen this term floating around, yet i am not too familiar with it. I have heard that it is a rather new term that has become popular in the martial arts and I have seen it made in reference to katas/forms. Can anyone elaborate on what bunkai means exactly. please forgive my ignorance. That which does not destroy me will only make me stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotochem Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Hi GMC, The term Bunkai is basically used to describe the possible applications for movements in kata or forms. Is that move a block, strike, lock, or throw? It all depends on the creativity and ability of the individual. Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommarker Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 'sin chong' in the Korean arts. I'm no longer posting here. Adios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equaninimus Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Bunkai means "analysis." It does not mean application of techniqes. That term is "oyo." Dave Lowry had a great article on the misuse/overuse of the word Bunkai a while back that I will endeavor to locate. Briefly, Bunkai implies analysing the body mechanics of the technique, in order to ascertain an oyo, or application, behind them. Rather like the way we in the west have latched onto the term "gi" to mean "dogi," or "keikogi," (and any participants on E-budo who have been subjected to Toney Kehoe's rants understand just how trivial a change this really is!) bunkai has become a "shorthand" term for kata analysis and application. There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granmasterchen Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 ok, thank you all for helping me out. I understand now, I see the light and have been enlightened. That which does not destroy me will only make me stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotochem Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Bunkai means "analysis." It does not mean application of techniqes. That term is "oyo." Dave Lowry had a great article on the misuse/overuse of the word Bunkai a while back that I will endeavor to locate. Please post the article I like to read it. I was under the impression that Bunkai represented possible applications where as Oyo represented more practical uses of a movement such as changing the angle of application or direction of which you step or making slight modifications of the technique itself for it to be applied practically by the user. Why don't we just learn in English........ Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equaninimus Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 I have been unable to fidn the article online. But, for the mini Nihongo lesson: Bunkai simply means analysis. When you have blood drawn, it undergoes bunkai. When you balance your checkbook, you are doing bunkai. There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jules Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 This is a commonly cunfused term..... Bunkai......refers to the "hidden meaning" behind the techniques being performed in the kata Kaisai......refers to the analysis of those techniques Oyo......refers to the application of those techniques Hope that sorts that out for everyone. ~Jules ~Master Jules......aka "The Sandman""I may be a trained killer......but Im really a nice guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equaninimus Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 This is a commonly cunfused term..... Bunkai......refers to the "hidden meaning" behind the techniques being performed in the kata Kaisai......refers to the analysis of those techniques Oyo......refers to the application of those techniques Hope that sorts that out for everyone. ~JulesNope. "Bunkai" means anaylsis, nothing more, nothing less. Never heard of kaisai. Can you post the kanji? There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jules Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Eq......Im new here, and dont wanna start a flame war......Im curious to know your background.....if you dont mind......The reason I ask is that this information comes to me from a student of Sekicki Toguchi and Masanobu Shinjo, both direct students of Chojun Miyagi......these terms are commonly confused.....but you are wrong.....Kaisai is analysis..... ~Jules ~Master Jules......aka "The Sandman""I may be a trained killer......but Im really a nice guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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