SevenStar Posted March 24, 2004 Posted March 24, 2004 karate schools vary - you'd have to check them out. In general, kyokushin does alot of sparring and conditioning - similar to muay thai. But, there are kyokushin schools that don't either. I don't know a whole lot about wado, but I know it's a derrivative of jujutsu and shotokan.
Sho-ju Posted May 24, 2004 Posted May 24, 2004 Dave Camarillo who was a top ranked judoka and now teaches BJJ for Ralph Gracie said judo is harder then BJJ to learn. Interesting. http://www.sherdog.com/interviews/camarillo/camarillointerview1.shtm
goshinman Posted May 27, 2004 Posted May 27, 2004 I read that entire article and it didn't seem as though Dave had alot of nice things to say about Judo. He said wrestling throws are better and that 90% of the stuff he learned in judo he has discarded. Sounds like he's been CONVERTED. Tapped out, knocked out, or choked out...Take your pick.http://jujitsu4u.com/http://www.combatwrestling.com/http://gokor.com/
SevenStar Posted May 29, 2004 Posted May 29, 2004 likely due to the gi factor. a lot of judo throws can be done gi-less, but due to the nature of competition, they aren't usually taught that way, and many people won't attempt to figure out how to do so.
Sho-ju Posted May 29, 2004 Posted May 29, 2004 I read that entire article and it didn't seem as though Dave had alot of nice things to say about Judo. He said wrestling throws are better and that 90% of the stuff he learned in judo he has discarded. Sounds like he's been CONVERTED. He seems in awe of the Gracie's, not to mention a very unhealthy outlook towards other forms of grappling altogether. One thing was clear, he wanted a black belt in BJJ. What does that mean in the long run....($$$$$$). I think WE as grapplers have grown together and now see the positive effects of BJJ on judo/wrestling/sambo and BJJ has shown us our weakness (that is why I study both). If you want to be good at sport BJJ, Dave is right on, you need to study sport BJJ. A judoka wouldn't do well in a sport BJJ because it's not his element just as a BJJer will get tossed on his butt if he entered a judo touranment. Look at the great Rickson Gracie who entered a sambo tournament and got bombed left and right. (and believe me, Rickson has great throws.) Grappling is grappling and the rules will dictate how you train. Judo is harder IMO as a sport because of the rules, BJJ is a more free flowing form of jujitsu with many different ways to win. Judo has but a few.
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