equaninimus Posted March 25, 2004 Posted March 25, 2004 What does the Seito Matsumura lineage practice? The Pinans and Naihanchi II and III are recent additions to Seibukan, apparently Shimabukuro Sensei added them to the curriculum in the late 1970s, in order to simplify the learning process for the kyu ranks. Passai Gua and Jion are apparently in our yudansha curriculum because Shimabukuro Sensei's friend, Iha taught them to him, and he decided he liked them enough to add them. I really love the Okinawan Jion. It makes Shotokan Jion look wimpy! The "traditional" Seibukan kata list looks somehting like this: Seisan (our "base kata") Ananku Wansu Passai Chinto Kusanku Wanchin Gojushiho The dojo at which I practice also does Matayoshi-ryu Kobudo. In addition, in my personal practice I do Rohai (Shito version), Njushiho, and Sochin (Shoto version). There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
Coco Posted March 26, 2004 Posted March 26, 2004 My dojo is the only one i know (shito ryu) that its first kata is a kata called Junino kata... weird - After that we got the Heians then i dont know why it depends on your body size what katas you learn next. Required karas for black belt are Bassai Dai and Seienchin. Shito Ryu (3rd kyu) RETIRED - 2002-2003Now studying BJJ(2006)
equaninimus Posted March 26, 2004 Posted March 26, 2004 Hayashi-ha Shito Ryu teaches five "kihon" kata,and the two fukyugata (renamed Chi-no kata, and Tenno kata) prior to beginning the Pinan sequence. There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
aefibird Posted March 26, 2004 Posted March 26, 2004 My organisation is Shotokan and students learn: Kihon Heian Shodan Heian Nidan Heian Sandan Heian Yondan Heian Godan Tekki Shodan These take you up to brown belt level. During the 3 grades of brown belt, you must learn Bassai Dai, Kanku Dai, Empi and Jion. You can be taught any other kata during 1st, 2nd or 3rd kyu at your instructors discretion, but you will only be expected to know the ones mentioned. After Shodan kata learning is fee choice and up to instructors in which order they teach other kata, although students taking Nidan MUST know all 3 Tekki kata, Bassai Sho and Jitte as well. My instructor has studied and graded under quite a few different karate styles (although he only really teaches Shotokan), so he knows other kata as well as the Shotokan 26. Occasionally he will teach a kata from another style (or another styles variation of a kata we already know) - he says it's good for our karate education! "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers!
equaninimus Posted March 26, 2004 Posted March 26, 2004 For my sandan grading, I did Nijushiho. For nidan I did Hangetsu. There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
Buddhas Belly Posted May 28, 2004 Posted May 28, 2004 Here's my list: 1. Fukyugata Ich 2. Fukyugata Ni 3. Pinan Nidan 4. Geki-sai dai Ni 5. Fukyugata San 6. Pinan Shodan 7. Naihanchi Shodan 8. Pinan Sandan 9. Pinan Yondan 10. Pinan Godan 11. Ananku 12. Naihanchi Nidan 13. Wankan 14. Wanshu 15. Naihanchi Sandan 16. Rohai 17. Passai 18. Chinto 19. Gojushiho 20. Kusanku 21. - 26. Hakkutsuru 1-5
aefibird Posted May 28, 2004 Posted May 28, 2004 (edited) Edited Post Edited May 28, 2004 by aefibird "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers!
G95champ Posted May 28, 2004 Posted May 28, 2004 Sai We do tekki shodan after Heain Goadan. Then most of the time we do go on to Bassai Dai and the rest of the big 4. (Jion, Kanku Dai, and Empi) However I have always wondered why things are not taught in groups either. It would make sense to do Tekkie 1 2 and 3 before moving on. Then Bassai Dai and Sho Then Kanku Dai and Sho Then Jion, Jittie and Ginn After that you sort of lose the ideas of family but some kata still group pretty well I think like Gankanku, Empi and chintie with one leg moves. Hangetsu, Wankan and Meyiko, and Sochin with differant stances. Nijushishio and Both Gojushio kata for there speed. Unsa is by itself. But we do the basic kata list you can see it at https://www.angelfire.com/wv2/wvka. However we may teach one kata before the other dependong on the person but thats our given outline. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
Guest Posted May 28, 2004 Posted May 28, 2004 What does the Seito Matsumura lineage practice? Official: Pinan 1-5 Nihanshi 1-3 Passai Sho, Passai Dai Seisan Gojushiho Chinto Rohai Sho, Rohai Dai, Rohai Shu Kakuho Hopporen Tensho Unofficial: Kusanku Ryushoken Sanchin Ananku Wansu Nisedi 1-5 Wankan
Jade Posted May 29, 2004 Posted May 29, 2004 After the 5 heians i learnt Bassai Dai, Tekki Shodan, Kanku Dai...and i'm going to start Jion soon. "With a bit of imagination, kata can be deadly." - Hidy Ochiai
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