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What does the Seito Matsumura lineage practice?

 

The Pinans and Naihanchi II and III are recent additions to Seibukan, apparently Shimabukuro Sensei added them to the curriculum in the late 1970s, in order to simplify the learning process for the kyu ranks. Passai Gua and Jion are apparently in our yudansha curriculum because Shimabukuro Sensei's friend, Iha taught them to him, and he decided he liked them enough to add them. I really love the Okinawan Jion. It makes Shotokan Jion look wimpy! :D

 

The "traditional" Seibukan kata list looks somehting like this:

 

Seisan (our "base kata")

 

Ananku

 

Wansu

 

Passai

 

Chinto

 

Kusanku

 

Wanchin

 

Gojushiho

 

The dojo at which I practice also does Matayoshi-ryu Kobudo. In addition, in my personal practice I do Rohai (Shito version), Njushiho, and Sochin (Shoto version).

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My dojo is the only one i know (shito ryu) that its first kata is a kata called Junino kata... weird - After that we got the Heians then i dont know why it depends on your body size what katas you learn next. Required karas for black belt are Bassai Dai and Seienchin.

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Hayashi-ha Shito Ryu teaches five "kihon" kata,and the two fukyugata (renamed Chi-no kata, and Tenno kata) prior to beginning the Pinan sequence.

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My organisation is Shotokan and students learn:

 

Kihon

 

Heian Shodan

 

Heian Nidan

 

Heian Sandan

 

Heian Yondan

 

Heian Godan

 

Tekki Shodan

 

These take you up to brown belt level. During the 3 grades of brown belt, you must learn Bassai Dai, Kanku Dai, Empi and Jion. You can be taught any other kata during 1st, 2nd or 3rd kyu at your instructors discretion, but you will only be expected to know the ones mentioned. After Shodan kata learning is fee choice and up to instructors in which order they teach other kata, although students taking Nidan MUST know all 3 Tekki kata, Bassai Sho and Jitte as well.

 

My instructor has studied and graded under quite a few different karate styles (although he only really teaches Shotokan), so he knows other kata as well as the Shotokan 26. Occasionally he will teach a kata from another style (or another styles variation of a kata we already know) - he says it's good for our karate education!

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Here's my list:

 

1. Fukyugata Ich

 

2. Fukyugata Ni

 

3. Pinan Nidan

 

4. Geki-sai dai Ni

 

5. Fukyugata San

 

6. Pinan Shodan

 

7. Naihanchi Shodan

 

8. Pinan Sandan

 

9. Pinan Yondan

 

10. Pinan Godan

 

11. Ananku

 

12. Naihanchi Nidan

 

13. Wankan

 

14. Wanshu

 

15. Naihanchi Sandan

 

16. Rohai

 

17. Passai

 

18. Chinto

 

19. Gojushiho

 

20. Kusanku

 

21. - 26. Hakkutsuru 1-5

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We do tekki shodan after Heain Goadan. Then most of the time we do go on to Bassai Dai and the rest of the big 4. (Jion, Kanku Dai, and Empi)

 

However I have always wondered why things are not taught in groups either. It would make sense to do Tekkie 1 2 and 3 before moving on.

 

Then Bassai Dai and Sho

 

Then Kanku Dai and Sho

 

Then Jion, Jittie and Ginn

 

After that you sort of lose the ideas of family but some kata still group pretty well I think like Gankanku, Empi and chintie with one leg moves. Hangetsu, Wankan and Meyiko, and Sochin with differant stances. Nijushishio and Both Gojushio kata for there speed. Unsa is by itself.

 

But we do the basic kata list you can see it at https://www.angelfire.com/wv2/wvka. However we may teach one kata before the other dependong on the person but thats our given outline.

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What does the Seito Matsumura lineage practice?

 

Official:

 

Pinan 1-5

 

Nihanshi 1-3

 

Passai Sho, Passai Dai

 

Seisan

 

Gojushiho

 

Chinto

 

Rohai Sho, Rohai Dai, Rohai Shu

 

Kakuho

 

Hopporen

 

Tensho

 

Unofficial:

 

Kusanku

 

Ryushoken

 

Sanchin

 

Ananku

 

Wansu

 

Nisedi 1-5

 

Wankan

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After the 5 heians i learnt Bassai Dai, Tekki Shodan, Kanku Dai...and i'm going to start Jion soon. :karate:

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